All-Star Age Grid 2020-2021

[EHANcheer]

I think it would have made more sense to change junior upper limit for next season to 2005. In this grid, kids who aged out of junior last season (ie dob april 2004-turned 15 in April 2019) can now be back on junior team next season after a one year hiatus. By making it 2005 you ensure kids who aged out in 2018-2019 season aren’t back junior eligible, and those kids with the sept-dec 2004 birthdates age out of junior this season just like they would have if they hadn’t changed the grid. And then essentially the kids with birthdates Jan-August 2005 get the extra season on juniors so your still picking up more kids/raising age (or whatever the intended outcome of the grid change).
Or am I misunderstanding something?

That’s exactly how I read it as well.


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[Keep_Believing]

I have been on fierceboard a long time and still have not mastered sharing a picture. LOL

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

Sidenote: According to the age grid I missed the cut off for Itty Bitty Kitties, Clawstle Kittens, KittyKatz, and Peppermint Rays by like 30 years.

Rude.

 

[CLynn]

I have been on fierceboard a long time and still have not mastered sharing a picture. LOL

Took a few edits and trys, not gonna lie!

 

[catlady]

If this holds true (nothing is official yet), then the junior age grid is an epic fail. Kids as old as 16 can be on junior. Someone said "great, my kid can drive through the kindergarten car line and pick up her teammate from school and bring her to practice" and this statement alone shows that something is glaringly wrong with that age gap.
Given the ridiculous amount of divisions offered there's no reason why any age should be eligible for more than 2 divisions.

If your a small or new gym with very few kids, the odds of the majority of the athletes falling into that age group and level 1-3 is pretty high. A small/new gym owner being able to fit most of the kids that walk through their doors into one age division is a huge benefit. Based on the fact they didn't expand every division by that amount, I'm assuming that's what they're trying to accomplish. Perhaps a test to see if they can eventually get rid of D2? Skill wise, most gyms are building their teams with max skills now, so higher level crossovers are less of an issue. Who knows. But, I can see some logic with it only being Jr. age with the majority being in levels 1-3 and narrowing the ages in Jr. 4 and Jr. 5.

 

[AshleyErin]

What is the deduction for peeing on the mat?

From an unfortunate experience as a senior athlete, I can confidently say no deduction :oops:

....Lets just say front tumbling and poor bladder control is not an ideal combination

 

[CLynn]

If your a small or new gym with very few kids, the odds of the majority of the athletes falling into that age group and level 1-3 is pretty high. A small/new gym owner being able to fit most of the kids that walk through their doors into one age division is a huge benefit. Based on the fact they didn't expand every division by that amount, I'm assuming that's what they're trying to accomplish. Perhaps a test to see if they can eventually get rid of D2? Skill wise, most gyms are building their teams with max skills now, so higher level crossovers are less of an issue. Who knows. But, I can see some logic with it only being Jr. age with the majority being in levels 1-3 and narrowing the ages in Jr. 4 and Jr. 5.

I can’t imagine they would ever get rid of d2 and that d2 summit unless they actually lose money on it somewhere which would be a surprise. Another good point, let’s ditch the crossovers now that there is little excuse to not be able to field teams.

 

[emo_wifey]

Have you always been able to be 3 on Tiny Novice? That seems young. some 3s are not even potty trained.

Yes, it's always been 3. Before they added novice and minimum ages CP started at 3 and her teammate started after her third birthday but technically cheer age 2.

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[catlady]

I can’t imagine they would ever get rid of d2 and that d2 summit unless they actually lose money on it somewhere which would be a surprise. Another good point, let’s ditch the crossovers now that there is little excuse to not be able to field teams.

If they got rid of D2, that doesn't necessarily mean they would have to get rid of all of those bids. This year, Summit is May 1-4 and D2 May 8-10. With the International teams increasing, they could choose to do an International weekend instead of a D2 and pull back on, let's say, the Youth Division at Summit to make way for the increased bids needed for D2.

 

[CLynn]

If they got rid of D2, that doesn't necessarily mean they would have to get rid of all of those bids. This year, Summit is May 1-4 and D2 May 8-10. With the International teams increasing, they could choose to do an International weekend instead of a D2 and pull back on, let's say, the Youth Division at Summit to make way for the increased bids needed for D2.

That would all be fine with me but as I see it a lot of the growth in International are US teams going for international and regular Summit bids. I don't see those programs being interested in two different weekends.

 

[CGAcheer]

If they got rid of D2, that doesn't necessarily mean they would have to get rid of all of those bids. This year, Summit is May 1-4 and D2 May 8-10. With the International teams increasing, they could choose to do an International weekend instead of a D2 and pull back on, let's say, the Youth Division at Summit to make way for the increased bids needed for D2.

The change in the Jr age will drastically curtail the growth of International Jr in America

 

[Atxmom]

Not a fan. So if I understand it correctly my child born in 2004, who just aged out of junior will be eligible for a junior team next season as a 16 year old (17 in the spring) 11th grader ? That gives her 1 year in the senior division if she competes her senior year of high school.

My daughter is well behaved and kind. She feels responsible for her younger teammates but she shouldn’t have to be a babysitter. She was finally on senior team this year and had a few younger ones on her team. I remember at one comp her patiently and politely watching while one of them pulled her aside so she could show off how good her teddy bear was at “baskets tosses”. Not to mention the countless piggy back rides, tears etc.

 

[catlady]

The change in the Jr age will drastically curtail the growth of International Jr in America

Obviously, my thinking out loud holds no bearing on what their actual plan is, but I don't really see the need for D2 anymore with that age grid whether or not the shift is in Int'l, or elsewhere. I'm interested in seeing how many actual non-US International teams there will be this year, because I would imagine their desire with the Int'l division was more about bringing in actual International teams and not just US "International" teams.

 

[CLynn]

Obviously, my thinking out loud holds no bearing on what their actual plan is, but I don't really see the need for D2 anymore with that age grid whether or not the shift is in Int'l, or elsewhere. I'm interested in seeing how many actual non-US International teams there will be this year, because I would imagine their desire with the Int'l division was more about bringing in actual International teams and not just US "International" teams.

You can see bids awarded using this link
2019-2020 Summit Bid Reveals - Entries - Varsity

 

[EHANcheer]

While I do think the age gap on lower end is too low I can say as a parent of a 9 year old (cheer age 8) on a higher level junior team, it isn’t the handful of 9 year olds on the team that have trouble listening/staying on task. I would say at least on our team the nine year olds are just as focused...they haven’t gotten to that level by nine not having listened and staying on task and they have far less drama and attitude towards the coaches at their age...as most of them are “too scared” to get in trouble [emoji2957]

I think the con to having a big gap, at least in our case, is that a 9 year old doesn’t have much in common with a 15 year old. We’ve been lucky to have a group of younger ones this year and they def stick together.


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