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Going into the competition, did the cheerleaders know they wouldn't have gotten rings if they won? I'm just wondering.
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I agree with Andre but also if a "club" of any kind (yet I feel that cheer probably put the most IN to a University) are able to represent a University then I don't see why they can't represent the University again by showing off their University on their prize. I get what they are saying and trying to make their logo represented on Rings prestigious but seriously what's the harm?
Going into the competition, did the cheerleaders know they wouldn't have gotten rings if they won? I'm just wondering.
The difference is if a club wins a national championship its like your JV or LOWER team winning a National Championship so it DOESNT matter to the school!!! But in this case Cheerleading IS THE VARSITY SPORT and should be looked at as athletes!
Arguing for UA (as devil's advocate): The NCAA regualtion required for a recognized title has been well established. If we award rings (or simply allow the use of the script A) for the cheerleading team, what would allow us to deny the same treatment for any other club sport that might win a "national" championship?
Alabama administrators did not "take" anything away from this group of cheerleaders. Winning a TRUE national competition...being the number one team in the USA would be worthy of a request for a ring....but surely winning one of the many 'national' competitions is not. The cheerleaders are ambassadors of their university...they had their eyes wide open when they signed up, tried out for the team, the school is not taking advantage of them at all. This is NOT criticizing them..."national" in any other activity or sport means you are the ONLY team in the country at the top of the pyramid when all is said and done. They won a 'national level' competition, they are not national champions.
So why do other sports teams get rings for winning their conference? I mean if other sports only got rings for winning the National Championship I'd see your point but separating by conf is the same as splitting UCA/NCA etc. Recognition for a great accomplishment regardless of what it is should not create drama. These kids just want to represent their University the same way after they graduate the way they did while they were in school, on the field or on the mat and that is with the "A". Deserved anyway you cut it.Alabama administrators did not "take" anything away from this group of cheerleaders. Winning a TRUE national competition...being the number one team in the USA would be worthy of a request for a ring....but surely winning one of the many 'national' competitions is not. The cheerleaders are ambassadors of their university...they had their eyes wide open when they signed up, tried out for the team, the school is not taking advantage of them at all. This is NOT criticizing them..."national" in any other activity or sport means you are the ONLY team in the country at the top of the pyramid when all is said and done. They won a 'national level' competition, they are not national champions.
The hard work they do is applauded. The issue is what is a national championship? If UCA/NCA are owned and operated as one company, it is not a true championship. No other sport has EVERYONE compete and one winner crowned champs. NCAA rules for championship sports require a bracket format of elimination (like basketball final four) or regional qualifiers go on only, etc. Understand these kids want to rep their university. Why not push for sport recognition and then have a real format for championships? And AceDad...why is this wrong?So why do other sports teams get rings for winning their conference? I mean if other sports only got rings for winning the National Championship I'd see your point but separating by conf is the same as splitting UCA/NCA etc. Recognition for a great accomplishment regardless of what it is should not create drama. These kids just want to represent their University the same way after they graduate the way they did while they were in school, on the field or on the mat and that is with the "A". Deserved anyway you cut it.
The hard work they do is applauded. The issue is what is a national championship? If UCA/NCA are owned and operated as one company, it is not a true championship. No other sport has EVERYONE compete and one winner crowned champs. NCAA rules for championship sports require a bracket format of elimination (like basketball final four) or regional qualifiers go on only, etc. Understand these kids want to rep their university. Why not push for sport recognition and then have a real format for championships? And AceDad...why is this wrong?
I'm not denying that I wish there was ONE, BUT there isn't at this point and I feel whoever wins whatever competition should be recognized the right way.The hard work they do is applauded. The issue is what is a national championship? If UCA/NCA are owned and operated as one company, it is not a true championship. No other sport has EVERYONE compete and one winner crowned champs. NCAA rules for championship sports require a bracket format of elimination (like basketball final four) or regional qualifiers go on only, etc. Understand these kids want to rep their university. Why not push for sport recognition and then have a real format for championships? And AceDad...why is this wrong?