All-Star Cheerleaders Season 3?

[Obsessive Cheer]

Okay the visa thing makes a little more sense now, I missed the part where the dad said that it was he and not Cali that worked on obtaining the visa. My heart hurts for that whole family. No matter how things went down, Dylan did not deserve any of this. He's just a kid trying to live out his dream. And true, I'm 20 years old and thankfully not a parent, so I obviously can't actually grasp how difficult this must be for Dylan's dad. But I still think a tiny little bit less of him for what he said about that girl. Was she wrong to blame Dylan? Absolutely, but she's still practically a kid and he's an adult. So to me, he was in the wrong also. Especially, I feel, in his posting of that on fb where it's quite frowned upon to talk ill of other people's CPs. She's someone's kid too. When the day arrives that I do have children and can grasp just a little bit better how Dylan's dad is feeling, I probably will have a different view on the matter and relate more to him maybe. But in the present, I can only relate to the teenagers, which includes all of the Smoed kids. I feel for Dylan and all he's dealing with right now, hopefully his CEA family can stand in for his parents and lift him up. I feel for Jessica because she gave up her dream school for another dream that is now shattered. I feel for the kids on Smoed who love their coaches and are protective of their team and sometimes let emotions get the best of them (like all teenagers do). Their world (well cheer world) is in shambles because of this, which pretty much is Cali's fault because the show blew the whole issue up and is going to make it hard for all involved to move on, but it still must be hard for them, even though they said harsh things to and about Dylan that should be privately apologized for.

'That girl' as you put it is the same age as my son & is not a child. Did my son respond to any of the rubbish that was said...No he did not, was he going to...No. He remained professional about it only making a public statement about his move on his facebook page which was nothing but professional. It was not just the show that blew this up like this they just reinforced it all publicly all over again after our total silence on the matter

 

[Emily]

@Obsessive Cheer just wondering: did Eddie, Orby or Tannaz contact you since the other thread was closed and the links were removed?

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

I did receive an email yesterday morning my time (around 30 hours ago) from her. Not offering any solutions other than calling me. Seriously? What will that achieve in this situation? No one could call me or reply to my messages & emails for 4 months!
I feel nothing short of a public apology to my son & CEA on social media &/or ATV from all those involved including ATV will suffice at this point. I doubt that will ever happen as that would mean acknowledging the wrongs publicly but time will tell. Meanwhile the damage has been done & continues to.

 

[Cheermom1969]

'That girl' as you put it is the same age as my son & is not a child. Did my son respond to any of the rubbish that was said...No he did not, was he going to...No. He remained professional about it only making a public statement about his move on his facebook page which was nothing but professional. It was not just the show that blew this up like this they just reinforced it all publicly all over again after our total silence on the matter

Yes she is a child for all intents and purposes and you know it, just as everyone is referring to Dylan as a "kid" and a "teenager." She doesn't deserve to have you putting her on blast, I don't care how wronged you've been.

 

[getsum]

The letter from CA also noted 'Dylan and his family are clear that that outside
of lodging, meals and our team fees that we have waived he will be responsible for his own personal expenses'

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

No. I was just stating what was in our contracts when my daughter cheered. I know what Dylan's dad said. I just don't think you can be on Smoed and not be filmed. His desire to be on Smoed was apparently greater than his desire not to be on the show.

Is there anyone from Cali or Smoed who can clarify that here?

now i dont get why the father would say that smos are forced to be on the show.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Wow that's a harsh way to become single.

4 days before my birthday in a hotel room in Rome, 1 hour before a private tour of the Sistine Chapel. My firsthand experience that money doesn't buy you class or courtesy. Also- 20 minutes into breaking up with me, he told me that if we were older that he would have asked me to marry him. My face did this :confused:, I used several choice words my grandmother would have rapped my knuckles for, and then I locked myself in the bathroom. Good times.

I got a free tour of Rome, rode jet skis in Capri, and ate at a restaurant in a lemon grove on his parent's dime. You win some, you lose some.

 

[nicolee]

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

now i dont get why the father would say that smos are forced to be on the show.

I think it would be a bit different when it comes to the children. Filming routines whilst avoiding certain children who haven't consented would be a logistical nightmare, much harder than not showing a coach. I really doubt they'd let a kid be on Smoed if they didn't want to do the show.
Whether or not this is ethical is a different story. In my view, cheerleading as a sport shouldn't come in a package deal with a sensationalist reality show.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

Yes she is a child for all intents and purposes and you know it, just as everyone is referring to Dylan as a "kid" and a "teenager." She doesn't deserve to have you putting her on blast, I don't care how wronged you've been.

You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree that she is a child for several reasons..... Since when does a child get accepted to college unless they are a child protege or at genius level? I refer to Dylan as a kid as he is my kid & from 13 to 19 all are considered a teenager correct? Is a child allowed to obtain a drivers license? No. In NZ you are classed as an adult at 18 and I believe in the USA you can be charged for a felony & put in jail at 18 correct? That makes her an adult in my book. As for bashing her....how is repeating what she quoted & what others have said (including Eddie) bashing her? I guess Eddie was bashing her too then? I am not trying to be argumentative just trying to understand your reasoning & definition of a child.

Edit: Also if you are under 18 your parents have to sign an agreement allowing you to be on the team if you are 18 you do not need your parents consent.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

I think it would be a bit different when it comes to the children. Filming routines whilst avoiding certain children who haven't consented would be a logistical nightmare, much harder than not showing a coach. I really doubt they'd let a kid be on Smoed if they didn't want to do the show.
Whether or not this is ethical is a different story. In my view, cheerleading as a sport shouldn't come in a package deal with a sensationalist reality show.

I never said he was forced to be on the show at all. It is more than likely that if he never signed the release for the show that it would of caused a re-think of his selection. People are not always in their sport for fame or recognition, they are in it for the love of the sport.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

now i dont get why the father would say that smos are forced to be on the show.

I never said he was forced to be on the show at all. It is more than likely that if he never signed the release for the show that it would of caused a re-think of his selection. People are not always in their sport for fame or recognition, they are in it for the love of the sport.

 

[Tator tots]

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

now i dont get why the father would say that smos are forced to be on the show.

Maybe it's time to see the contract that has to be signed before anyone can be on a "so called reality" show? Ask Orby to produce the ATV/CA contract...and please ask him if a condition of this boy joining smo was even minimal exposure on the show.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

No they did not pay for his food & lodging. It is extremely common for host families to do this. That is why they are called host families.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

wow... did i read that correctly? they paid for his food and lodging as well?

now i dont get why the father would say that smos are forced to be on the show.

I never said he was forced to be on the show at all.

 

[nicolee]

I never said he was forced to be on the show at all. It is more than likely that if he never signed the release for the show that it would of caused a re-think of his selection. People are not always in their sport for fame or recognition, they are in it for the love of the sport.

No I know, I'm agreeing with you, and was responding to getsum.
I think you may have quoted the wrong post?

 

[Tator tots]

Nevermind...