I was referring to the elevated sense of self, so much so that we are putting others at risk. It's selfish no matter what words we use to define the concept is still there. Our medical professionals told us what we needed to, and so many made the decision to put their wants before the health of society. I have an issue with that.
The US accounts for 23 percent of the COVID cases yet we make up a 4.2 of the world's population so I can say
With a population of 1.43 billion people, compared with about 329 million in the United States, China has a population that's more than four times the size of the U.S. population. China had a total of 87k cases, America has 20 million cases. The US accounts for 23 percent of the COVID cases yet we make up a 4.2 of the world's population so I can say with confidence that America has not handled this well by any stretch of the imagination.
This failure came from the top.
Your personal liberties will have no value when the health system is overwhelmed. While so much was unknown at the beginning, there was also solid information that was provided and ignored by state and federal officials. So no, at the end of the day when it's a matter of public health your personal liberties of graduation parties, gender reveals, and or wing night they don't hold precedence over someone's life. Honestly, that angle is the reason why we are where we are.
Also we are 9 months into a pandemic, I do not care to be sensitive, 'realistic ' or motivational at this point.
look- with all due respect ...throwing stats at people doesn’t make anyone any more COVID credible and for the record- IM FULLY AWARE OF COVID... and I very much keep up with the various information and statistics regarding our current situation both locally and globally. I do not mean that rudely or sarcastically... I mean that as in “I’m good” I got it...I know how to Google, I read smartnewsusa every morning.
I’m also not AGAINST the vast majority of what you and the other poster (who responded regarding “my view or stance) have posted (although some have come to their own creative conclusions about my thoughts on the subject)
I JUST FEEL... and AGAIN I’ll state, that others shouldn’t be made to feel like they can’t or shouldn’t be able to voice an opposing opinion on a Forum- THAT was my WHOLE point, nothing really more, nothing really less. If someone feels they are spreading misinformation, someone may be misinformed or they have a differing opinion then as a forum member one might engage in debate or civil discussion to educate or inform another so that an exchange of accurate information can then be properly exchanged and retained.... but nobody wants to do that- we want to say things like ...
Also we are 9 months into a pandemic, I do not care to be sensitive, 'realistic ' or motivational at this point.[/QUOTE]
We’re like 5 days back on a post and your responding like I’m PERSONALLY against and attacking your stance on COVID- which I’m not... you’re reading entirely too much into my posts.
1.)The “experts” I was referring to in my original post
We’re Bill Gates (who does not have a medical degree yet is/has been consulted from the very beginning on everything from mitigation to vaccination) and Deborah Birx (who’s projection models were nothing short of a disgrace) I felt her opinion was by far too influenced by Federal political pressure ...
I also feel there have been some You Tube famous/sensationalized doctors that have been given WAY too much credibility.
2.) I believe in balance, this doesn’t mean everyone else should believe in “balance”. I believe there is a delicate line between the harm we causing by staying moderately open as well as fully shutting down. the US NEVER REALLY shut down (that was mistake 1)
And now... we are at a point where we are so strained because of our economy size- it’s just not possible to go into the full 2 month lock down we would need -not have a full fiscal collapse and or astronomical amount of poverty as a result
Our geography and state sovereignty doesn’t lend itself to it actually EVER REALLY working.
I would also like to add my views on the impact of lockdowns is heavily skewed on personal experience as I’m sure everyones is:
Covid has personally affected me in more ways than one. I have lost people to both the Virus and to Suicide... I also had to prolong a doctor visit only to find that now -Jan 13th I’ll be going in for a Diagnostic Breast exam.
I’ve spent a significant amount of time doing EXACTLY as I’m told and really only leaving my home for mostly essential outings -with the exception of a trip in Oct. I have not seen my grandmother since all of this started (who is in good health but is in assisted living but most recently had an outbreak of 29 in her facility) Since I have been given the news of my “appointment”... my perspective on the last 9 months and not having been able to see her has most definitely changed a bit. To say life views get altered drastically based on circumstance is an understatement.
3.) like you, I am a coach. I called off all “conditioning” practices the minute cases came to rise and will keep them called off until cases significantly decrease and it’s SAFE for my kids to be together again. I live in CA and while I do not AGREE with everything our Governor is doing I’m wise enough to know that their health and the health of their families is more important than the small gratification of getting together for a few hours a week. I’m also smart enough to know they are young and have differing opinions and views, think they are invincible and don’t all have stable support systems at home so I have to be sensitive, understanding and adaptable... so I do everything I can to make what I CAN work when it’s deemed safely to do so given our state and health department guidelines. I believe it’s my job to create an inclusive, controlled, immersive, yet SAFE environment that makes them feel AS normal as possible because YES... these kids deserve to have the life I had when I was their age... and I don’t want them to loose that WANT for that life. Sadly I have seen some of them loose it already.
4.) YES, I DO agree it’s been a failure from the top. As a coach you would know better than anyone attitude reflects leadership and perhaps we are both in full agreement on this. (Perhaps we are not) but you can’t blame a bunch of defiant gender reveals and some grad parties when we have Our most visible and vocal policy makers not wearing masks, giving stay at home orders from vacation destinations and throwing large events at their wineries while they close bars and eateries down the street. Some want to blame federal leadership others want to blame state leadership-but in my opinion when you have both sides of our government screaming at each other like toddlers fighting over Tonka Trucks on live TV daily, everyone proclaiming THEY know best and THATS the example Americans have during a pandemic when they’re stuck home watching the news 24/7- that’s what you’re going to get.
A nation full of toddlers doing the exact same. They can’t TALK, they can’t discuss, they can’t even just have a meeting of IDEAS to come up with the BEST ways to get out of one of the biggest crisis’ we have ever had as a Nation FOR that NATION ... it’s just “I’ll TALK and the OTHER side better listen or we will shut them up or we will be angry”... (both sides)
Which brings me BACK to my ORIGINAL point...
I didn’t want that for that poster on this forum- I wanted us to be able to TALK to EACH OTHER.
Right, wrong, agree, disagree
... just listen, be heard: exchange ideas and learn from one another- that is all, done with the Covid debate on this thread unless it’s related to event operation or Varsity’s response.
I take responsibility for my part in de-railing but I will never retract defending an individuals right to post an opinion.
Also, I’m done with the 5 paragraph posts trying to explain myself- they’re hard enough for me to tolerate writing let alone anyone reading