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All those gyms that brag about winning Billy Bob's Ultra Nationals. Ok, not really.
I still think girls will leave their d2 gyms to win the d1 worlds title. I feel like it doesn't matter how "loyal" you are to your gym. If you have the skills, you want to be a part of the big famous gym. I would rather be a Shooting Star than some girl on the d2 team at craptastic all stars... just my opinion.
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Twist & Shout would be considered D2 under these size guidelines being thrown around, and you wouldn't consider them a big famous gym?
I just think of how excited Macs was to place in 3rd. And consider it this way- yes they might have won at D2, but would it have felt the same? I don't know, you'd have to ask someone from there..Or for CJA to break top 10- would they rather have that accomplishment or win but against smaller teams?
I wish I could shimmy this a thousand times! You have hit the nail on the head!Ah...but in here lies the rub! I believe that the athletes would want to beat every team in their division.
But, the gym owner will hang that "World Champion" banner like the billboard it was designed to be, by this proposal. Just like those "National Championship" banners you see in many gyms - where the teams had no competition in their division. The hope is that current and potential customers will see the banner and not care which division the rings came from, just that they now have an opportunity to secure one for their CP at this small gym.
So, once again, it's the "who" vs the "what". In this case the "who" is what the athletes are interested in attaining vs the business side and its interests.
None are necessarily villainous. They are, in fact, interdependent. But, as a mom who makes sacrifices to pay, I want my daughter to have the experience she would like to have. I'm interested in what will ultimately give her and her teammates the best cheer experience, and that will help them to grow as people after they leave the sport of cheer.
So with two divisions within the parent division there would be two top tens or conversely a top twenty. Just not as meaningful as top ten in one division of say 82 teams as it was in 2013 or years past - where the field is leveled. Again all you have to do is read this thread and see how the industry will feel about the consolation division.All those gyms that brag about winning Billy Bob's Ultra Nationals. Ok, not really.
Honestly, though, I don't see it as an industry wide put down to win DII. I know plenty of athletes who would be proud to say "we came in top 10 in our division at Worlds."
I'm genuinely curious: do you feel, as a gym, that you are the exception or the rule? Do you think your goal (of having the drive to do well/better each year) is common for gyms of your size/skill level (even from 2010 to 2011)?I haven't read through the entire thread but here are some points I would like to make.
*I WANT to compete against the best at Worlds. End of Story. Even if it means getting our butts kicked.
*In 2010 I took my team to Worlds (for the first time) on a At-Large Bid and we knew we wouldn't make it out of Prelims. We didnt have the drive or determination and unfortunately got our butts kicked.
*In 2011 I took a team to Worlds on a full paid bid and we made it all the way to finals (placing the highest in our States history). While many can say we didnt "deserve" to be there in 2010, the experienced help my kids learn what it was all about.
Last year we had rebuilding year (1 kid ever attended worlds before) and got an At-Large bid and making it past Prelims was NOT a goal. This year, same spot we were in 2011, we are aiming towards full paid and top 10.
You all can rant and rave about teams not deserving to go, but I wouldn't be where I am right now without that opportunity.
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I haven't read through the entire thread but here are some points I would like to make.
*I WANT to compete against the best at Worlds. End of Story. Even if it means getting our butts kicked.
*In 2010 I took my team to Worlds (for the first time) on a At-Large Bid and we knew we wouldn't make it out of Prelims. We didnt have the drive or determination and unfortunately got our butts kicked.
*In 2011 I took a team to Worlds on a full paid bid and we made it all the way to finals (placing the highest in our States history). While many can say we didnt "deserve" to be there in 2010, the experienced help my kids learn what it was all about.
Last year we had rebuilding year (1 kid ever attended worlds before) and got an At-Large bid and making it past Prelims was NOT a goal. This year, same spot we were in 2011, we are aiming towards full paid and top 10.
You all can rant and rave about teams not deserving to go, but I wouldn't be where I am right now without that opportunity.