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This "janky" program you're talking about beat a very good world cup junior team earlier in the year. This program also won a bid from battle at the capitol not at cheertech with the 19 people that will be competing at worlds with no fill ins. Everyone stay positive and good luck for the rest of the season and remember were talking about kids here.
 
This "janky" program you're talking about beat a very good world cup junior team earlier in the year. This program also won a bid from battle at the capitol not at cheertech with the 19 people that will be competing at worlds with no fill ins. Everyone stay positive and good luck for the rest of the season and remember were talking about kids here.
Nope....NOBODY called any child or program JANKY. Janky tumbling yes...Janky gym NO! Good luck at World's....I hope it is everything you dreamed of.
 
No doubt there is a lot of talent on State Allstars - and super great kids. The issue is higher level teams that aren't ready throwing tumbling that is dangerous. It's not the kids' fault. They are told they're ready and congratulated for fulls that barely get around. Coaches owe it to their kids to only allow skills to be thrown when they are solid. And I was sent a message letting me know who won by getting that thread taken down. Quite mature.
 
I'm sure all athletes that are going are proud and excited. This is my third year going and i'm still excited.
 
This "janky" program you're talking about beat a very good world cup junior team earlier in the year. This program also won a bid from battle at the capitol not at cheertech with the 19 people that will be competing at worlds with no fill ins. Everyone stay positive and good luck for the rest of the season and remember were talking about kids here.
No one called the gym janky. I will commend State for their lower level teams...they are impressive. The senior 3 in particular is a very good, appropriately leveled team. I just watched a vid yesterday. I urge you not to take comments about the technique of tumbling and extend them so broadly.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about. But please refrain from naming programs or assuming what you think coaches are talking about. Let's remember what fierceboard is all about, building up our sport and not putting people down.
 
I'm sure all athletes that are going are proud and excited. This is my third year going and i'm still excited.
It really is something to be proud about! I fiercely hope you still feel the same way after you compete and are on your way back home, and feeling proud with the routine you put out on the floor. That is when the experience will have been worth it.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about. But please refrain from naming programs or assuming what you think coaches are talking about. Let's remember what fierceboard is all about, building up our sport and not putting people down.
You don't build up the sport by hiding the dirty laundry. Nobody was putting PEOPLE down, the discussion surrounded the situation and the risks.
 
This "janky" program you're talking about beat a very good world cup junior team earlier in the year. This program also won a bid from battle at the capitol not at cheertech with the 19 people that will be competing at worlds with no fill ins. Everyone stay positive and good luck for the rest of the season and remember were talking about kids here.

Right, and that's exactly why everyone on the other thread was so concerned. No one said the program was "janky". Everyone expressed concern for the safety of the kids.
 
Let's remember what fierceboard is all about, building up our sport and not putting people down.

Is that right?

So pointing out errors or safety violations doesn't meet that criteria?

Pointing out hypocrisy doesn't meet that criteria?

Discussing potential changes and the good/bad that they might produce doesn't meet that criteria?

If that's what you think, then I think you're looking for the unicornboard and not this one.
 
As a person with no gym affiliation and no concern about any one person (my concern is, however, the safety of our athletes)...I have to say that I saw nothing in the thread that wasn't polite but honest. The video I saw, however, DID have not only unsafe tumbling but unsafe stunting/pyramids as well. I didn't see it as 'calling someone out' so much as 'bringing attention to'- it's very easy to say 'Not in MY Gym' until someone else is gasping in fear while watching your routine. I did watch the State routine, and it was unfortunate to see a team who might have done well at a lower level push themselves in such an unsafe manner. It would have been one thing if you could feel like maybe they were having an off day or if at least one part was solid, but I couldn't help but worry for injury during the whole routine. The sad part is, these gyms will do this in most cases UNLESS they're brought to light. Because let's face it, these rules weren't necessarily aimed at the Top Guns, the MTs, the WCs, and the Cheer Athletics of the world. It was aimed at the teams determined to BE the Top Guns, World Cups, Calis, Brandons of the world WITHOUT following the proper procedures that GOT those teams where they are in the first place.
 
As I recall they were examples of what could be deemed as unsafe. There were compliments to the one program mentioned but I agree, skills need to be perfected before going out on the floor. If there is 1 or 2 minor touchdowns or a freak accident you can tell, when all of the skills in the routine are performed w/ less then great execution, that is jeopardizing our sport and the rules behind it.

I don't feel ANYONE was maliciously attacking athletes, just showing examples b/c of concern for their safety. Posting a video may have not been right, but seriously at least they aren't going behind anyones back, it's open and out there and perhaps this could educate others on safety and performance ready skills.

I wish there was a way EP's could evaluate the technique and execution of some squads and "reccommend" a more appropriate level. This is all levels, like if a 4 isn't really a true 4 and standing tucks are landing on their faces and there are like 3 layouts and weak stunting.. why can't they make a reccomendation based on what they see! Sorry - off topic!
 
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