All-Star Lvl 4 Rules Question.

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R full arounds legal in level 4? I'm looking at the rules and don't see where you cannot full around.
 
I would say illegal if done at extended level based on the new level 4 rules. You could do it at prep level, or you can do a full up to extended two-legged stunt or platform. But if you release in the full around, then you cannot do it at extended level.
 
Can I get the ruling that contradicts it
Exactly what @cheerinfo said:

LEVEL 4 STUNTS
A. A spotter is required for each top person in an extended stunt.
B. Single leg extended stunts are allowed.
C. Twisting mounts and transitions:
1. To prep level and below are allowed up to 1-½ twisting rotations by the top person in relation to
the performing surface.
Clarification: A twist performed with an additional turn by the bases performed in the same skill set,
would be illegal if the resulting cumulative rotation of the top person exceeds 1-½ rotations.
2. To an extended position are allowed up to 1 twist and must meet the following conditions: a. Extended skills up to ½ twist are allowed. Clarification: Any additional turn performed by the
bases in the same skill set would be illegal if the resulting cumulative rotation of the top person
exceeds 1 rotation. (example: ½ up to liberty is legal)
b. Extended skills exceeding ½ and up to 1 twist must land in a two leg stunt. Exception: Landing
in a platform position is permitted. Platform position must be visibly held prior to hitting a
single leg stunt. Clarification: Any additional turn performed by the bases in the same skill set
would be illegal if the resulting cumulative rotation of the top person exceeds 1 rotation.
(example: full up to immediate liberty is illegal, full up to extension is legal)

Here's the link to the new rules:
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//Member Documents /CheerRules.pdf
 
So which specific rule would make a full around from low to high or high to high illegal, if it is from 2 feet and to 2 feet and if someone maintains contact
 
I was just questioning this with another coach at my gym... This being legal makes me very happy!

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Because it is a RELEASE MOVE, not just a 360 twist. If someone can maintain contact throughout, then I would agree that it is legal if it lands on two feet or in a platform (dead leg). But if all bases/back release, it is not allowed at extended level.
 
*Release moves that land in extended position must originate from ground-level and may not involve
any twisting or flipping.

That came from under release moves..unless someone maintains contact during the full around, it's a release which MUST follow the above rule. Hope that helps a bit!
 
you can do a low to high full around because the main base maintains contact. high to high you don't maintain contact so it is a release move.
 
Like I said twice before in this thread...if you all fully release...it is not legal. If you maintain contact throughout the twist, regardless of where it takes place, then it is legal.
 
Because it is a RELEASE MOVE, not just a 360 twist. If someone can maintain contact throughout, then I would agree that it is legal if it lands on two feet or in a platform (dead leg). But if all bases/back release, it is not allowed at extended level.
in a high to high full around the main base stays in contract with the foot at all times, just like in low to high full arounds the only differences is you start high and land high instead of start low end high:)
 
in a high to high full around the main base stays in contract with the foot at all times, just like in low to high full arounds the only differences is you start high and land high instead of start low end high:)
That would be extremely hard considering the main base would have to hold the stunt with their left hand, slide their left hand under in an awkward grip and then initiate it. Also if you put any power at all on it it would go out of their hands. It could be made to work but IMO it would be worth the effort when you could get a more visual stunt by going full up hit bump to prep level awesome full up again. You could tweak that stunt maybe with an opposite spin down to prep level or something similar and have a much more visually impressive stunt without the high to high which would require stopping. I might have one group do it in the center to sync up with full up from prep to extended, but I just don't see the stunt working out well with all the funkiness.
 
That would be extremely hard considering the main base would have to hold the stunt with their left hand, slide their left hand under in an awkward grip and then initiate it. Also if you put any power at all on it it would go out of their hands. It could be made to work but IMO it would be worth the effort when you could get a more visual stunt by going full up hit bump to prep level awesome full up again. You could tweak that stunt maybe with an opposite spin down to prep level or something similar and have a much more visually impressive stunt without the high to high which would require stopping. I might have one group do it in the center to sync up with full up from prep to extended, but I just don't see the stunt working out well with all the funkiness.

its really not as hard as you are making it seem ....it has been done plenty of times before and when done correctly it looks wonderful. I posted a video below i found of a middle school team doing it....
http://www.cheerlibrary.com/videos/497/
 
in a high to high full around the main base stays in contract with the foot at all times, just like in low to high full arounds the only differences is you start high and land high instead of start low end high:)
I personally think holding on is a lot harder. But some thing that its easier. Depends who you are. Coming from college cheerleading, whenever we worked on high to high full arounds, we always released.

its really not as hard as you are making it seem ....it has been done plenty of times before and when done correctly it looks wonderful. I posted a video below i found of a middle school team doing it....
http://www.cheerlibrary.com/videos/497/
and wow!!! that is awesome for a middle school.
 

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