All-Star New Rules For Worlds

[dawgshow]

Well, if a gym had made plans otherwise, then that suddenly throws a wrench in their plans....all approx 2 months before competitions start.

Call me dense, but which plans? I don't see anything that effects rostering. Most seem to address replacements. Am I missing something?

 

[njallday]

Call me dense, but which plans? I don't see anything that effects rostering. Most seem to address replacements. Am I missing something?

my guess would be if a weak "worlds" team was created and the gym had intentions to use replacements to get them a bid a la what CEA has been doing with some of their less popular teams for a few seasons. Or gyms putting up to 10 kids on two worlds teams with intentions of replacing them later...

Did I mention I love these rules and hope they expand on them even more? :)

 

[Cheeranswers]

Well, if a gym had made plans otherwise, then that suddenly throws a wrench in their plans....all approx 2 months before competitions start.

all these rules seem like they wouldn't affect the average gym with good intentions. If you're already planning on having athletes from your premier team cross over to your other teams just to get bids then I could see them getting mad.. but it's a necessary and fair rule imo

 

[AScheer]

So just past the alternate & sub rules is the international rule...

Athletes must be legal residents or legal student residents of the U.S. For more information about legal residency, legal student residency and/or Visa requirements please visit U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

So obviously Smoed comes to mind, but they aren't the only US team with athletes from other countries. I know these kids aren't legal residents, and it seems most of them have graduated so they aren't student residents. Are these athletes all going to have to go back home? Or is this an old rule I'm just seeing and misunderstanding? I admittedly know nothing about visas.

 

[UCFKnights07]

So just past the alternate & sub rules is the international rule...

Athletes must be legal residents or legal student residents of the U.S. For more information about legal residency, legal student residency and/or Visa requirements please visit U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

So obviously Smoed comes to mind, but they aren't the only US team with athletes from other countries. I know these kids aren't legal residents, and it seems most of them have graduated so they aren't student residents. Are these athletes all going to have to go back home? Or is this an old rule I'm just seeing and misunderstanding? I admittedly know nothing about visas.

I'm not gonna lie they are the first team I thought of when reading the first page. I'm gonna guess that these new rules are gonna make it difficult for them to pull from where ever they feel like. So it will be interesting.

 

[onecheermom]

So just past the alternate & sub rules is the international rule...

Athletes must be legal residents or legal student residents of the U.S. For more information about legal residency, legal student residency and/or Visa requirements please visit U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

So obviously Smoed comes to mind, but they aren't the only US team with athletes from other countries. I know these kids aren't legal residents, and it seems most of them have graduated so they aren't student residents. Are these athletes all going to have to go back home? Or is this an old rule I'm just seeing and misunderstanding? I admittedly know nothing about visas.

So the Header for the above bolded rule reads: U.S. TEAM ELIGIBILITY
Athletes must be legal residents or legal student residents of the U.S

So does this rule apply to any US team going to worlds.. Or does it apply to IO5, IOC5, IO6, IOC6 Teams that compete in the US Worlds Trials?? :confused:

 

[cheermomforever]

So what happens when an athlete competes on 2 teams? In April last year one girl competed on team that upgraded to FP and also
Competed on team that got AL at same comp. what is rule for that?

 

[quitthedrama]

So what happens when an athlete competes on 2 teams? In April last year one girl competed on team that upgraded to FP and also
Competed on team that got AL at same comp. what is rule for that?

disregard my previous post - I am editing it. The rule doesn't say anything about at large bids. Interesting.
I do love the rule, but think it should be for any bid.

 

[cheermomforever]

But what if it's at one comp that 2 bids were won like she did?

 

[quitthedrama]

But what if it's at one comp that 2 bids were won like she did?

Based on the way the rule is written, it doesn't sound like it applies to at large bids in any way, so the athlete would stay on the team that upgraded to the FP.

 

[cheermomforever]

Based on the way the rule is written, it doesn't sound like it applies to at large bids in any way, so the athlete would stay on the team that upgraded to the FP.

Ok thanks. Thought it was an AL bid also....

 

[cheerinatorXdad]

all these rules seem like they wouldn't affect the average gym with good intentions. If you're already planning on having athletes from your premier team cross over to your other teams just to get bids then I could see them getting mad.. but it's a necessary and fair rule imo

No I agree. The rule itself makes sense, but the timing is my concern. I think the USASF should have a deadline for all new rules for the upcoming season, that's all.

 

[AScheer]

No I agree. The rule itself makes sense, but the timing is my concern. I think the USASF should have a deadline for all new rules for the upcoming season, that's all.

You're not alone in that thought. USASF doesn't exactly have a history of great timing. It seems that they are getting better, but there shouldn't be any changes during comp season (which is already on us - Jamfest held one this past weekend.)

 

[gofriars610]

So just past the alternate & sub rules is the international rule...

Athletes must be legal residents or legal student residents of the U.S. For more information about legal residency, legal student residency and/or Visa requirements please visit U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

I know these kids aren't legal residents, and it seems most of them have graduated so they aren't student residents. Are these athletes all going to have to go back home?

Here's your friendly reminder that the USASF invented the term "legal student resident" and it does not appear on US Immigration's site.

It'd be far simpler for USASF to say "all athletes must have a legal presence in the country in which the gym they represent is located," (which would cover our overseas pals living in the Schengen Area as well as any Washingtonians who commute to Vancouver, BC for practice but live in the USA—they're not "residents" of the country, but they're not there illegally) but this is the USASF we're talking about.

Also lol at "WORLDS TRAILS" — is it really asking too much for the governing body of cheer to proofread its website?

 

[quitthedrama]

You're not alone in that thought. USASF doesn't exactly have a history of great timing. It seems that they are getting better, but there shouldn't be any changes during comp season (which is already on us - Jamfest held one this past weekend.)

I'm ok with this rule coming after summer but before bid comps. It really shouldn't have even had to be a rule - gyms have been playing too many games with athlete swapping and stacking teams with subs just to get a paid bid. My guess is that coaches were probably aware it was coming long before it was published and isn't as much of a surprise to them as it is to us.


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