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Andre said:It's not tested enough and sometimes, like this season, it comes out after the first bid event.
Thanks! I knew there had to be a reason...
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Andre said:It's not tested enough and sometimes, like this season, it comes out after the first bid event.
I agree to an extent, I think we really do try to push the envelope nowadays with difficulty. Some teams take it too far, and mastery should be rewarded... BUT....
Team A vs Team B
Alpha Stars:
5 straight up heelstretch fulldowns that hit= 5 level 4 skills in a sequence (5 full downs)
Beta Stars:
5 heelstretch tick tocks that full down and one falls= 8 level 4 skills in a sequence (4 tick tocks, 4 full downs)
Even with the fall, Beta Stars still show more at-level skills in their sequence. See what I mean? On some scoresheets, that is rewarded... others, it is not. :)
If you are weaker level 5 team just wait till the end of the year. If you look at the bids handed out over the last couple of weeks they have gone to teams that win by default, not by performance. I am not trying to be mean but look at what place they finished in their division and level 5 overall and it is crazy. Most teams have at large bids that are good by end of year and are just going for paid bids, so gyms with week level 5 teams go to these competitions and get an at large just to say they went to Worlds.
I agree, and this is exactly what I think. I do not think a sloppy team doing hard scary stunts and kamikaze fulls and doubles for tumbling should be rewarded if they fall, nor if they hit for that matter! I am talking about teams with difficult skills, talent and usually clean routines. Stunts fall, even the best of them, but if you lose to a stunting level 3-4 team with double downs just to make them 5, and 3 fulls, something just doesn't seem right about our scoring.I think dropping one stunt and having one td shouldn't put a team that has the difficulty behind a team that is barely pulling off level 5.
I agree that a sloppy, weak level anything shouldn't get rewarded over a team that hits clean basics just bc they tried to do harder stuff. You don't get an A for effort. You get an A for hitting and an A+ for hitting difficulty.
sad, but true. at this point, an at-large is almost equivalent to an invitation.
If you are weaker level 5 team just wait till the end of the year. If you look at the bids handed out over the last couple of weeks they have gone to teams that win by default, not by performance. I am not trying to be mean but look at what place they finished in their division and level 5 overall and it is crazy. Most teams have at large bids that are good by end of year and are just going for paid bids, so gyms with week level 5 teams go to these competitions and get an at large just to say they went to Worlds.
Num1Stunta said:I agree 100%... I know it sounds harsh, and I feel bad even saying it.
I saw a team at Cheersport in who was a trainwreck, behind the rest of the division by well over 100 points. I come to find out, they just received a bid within the last 2 weeks. I don't know how this can be possible, because I would even have been hesitant to put that team out there as SO5.
On the one hand, the whole "dare-to-dream" mentality kind of hits me. I love to see a team really setting their mind on a lofty goal, and trying to work for it. But, at what point to the coaches step back and see that they are just not ready for certain things?
i completely agree. but there are a few exceptions like with anything. there are some at larges that deserve to go to worlds more than some of the full paid. like orlando all stars angels and elite cheer stars... they both placed higher than the team(s) that got the full paid(s)... but UCA gave it to division champs, and UPA gave it to the 3rd place team in a different division instead of the highest scoring team of the whole competition.sad, but true. at this point, an at-large is almost equivalent to an invitation.
It's not tested enough and sometimes, like this season, it comes out after the first bid event.
Let's be honest people. 80% of the teams that are going to worlds are going for the experience. Most gyms plan there season around going to worlds. It isn't about winning a competition anymore...it is about bid chasing. I have said this 1,000 times. How many teams in each category really have a shot at getting a globe this year? International will be a toss up due to the rules of only 3 American teams making it.
The usual contendors are ALWAY at the top for the globes. Everyone else is going to try and make it to day 2 or place top 15. It is a sad but true statement. Break down the divisions of who really has a shot at the globe, and you will only come up with maybe 25-30 teams.
Worlds is like March Madness....you have your Ohio State's, Duke, UNC, UConn's of the world....and then you have teams like VCU who crash the party every once in awhile.
That last at large team to crash the party was Basic Superstars in small senior.