All-Star Prepping For The Cheerpocalypse: What Will We Do When Shtf?

[dance_extreme_94]

So how should we regulate this? Have an athlete wear a body camera at all times to make sure they only tumble on mats or in a gym?

I'm not saying "regulate it" I'm just saying to me that seems to be another reason why we have so many injuries. I was just putting out a suggestion. I know its not likely to happen :)

 

[dance_extreme_94]

So how should we regulate this? Have an athlete wear a body camera at all times to make sure they only tumble on mats or in a gym?

I was only suggesting extra precaution that could be taken. I don't expect "body cameras" :)

 

[ScottyB]

I'm not saying "regulate it" I'm just saying to me that seems to be another reason why we have so many injuries. I was just putting out a suggestion. I know its not likely to happen :)

This is why safety rules and awareness about what we in certain places/situations is important. It is on everyone (coaches, parents, athletes, etc) if we want to create a culture that is safe for all.

And just like the real world, people will always break the rules or not care about safety and eventually ruin things for the rest.

 

[SL&AM]

Not to take away from the boy's death or the fact that injuries occur, he was a bat boy for a minor league team. So the power behind the bat/ball was far greater than what would happen in little league.

Thanks for clarifying that! My news organization said he was Little League; I didn't realize they reported it wrong.

 

[ScottyB]

Thanks for clarifying that! My news organization said he was Little League; I didn't realize they reported it wrong.

All good. It happened in my home state so I have seen the story multiple times in a variety of outlets.
The statement from his dad is heartbreaking. I can't imagine being in his position.

 

[tumbleyoda]

Jumping off of that point, what do you think of the fact that certified HS cheer coaches can let kids tumble at practice, even if they are not certified to specifically teach tumbling?

For safety reason, I wouldn't want them to teach ANYTHING they are not certified to teach. I mean if we are going to err on the side of safety, then lets do it. The fact that tumbling gets treated like an anyone can do it, teach it discipline UNTIL someone gets hurt and then people complain about progressions and safety drives me crazy. There is also a big difference between spotting a skill safely and teaching a skill correctly. We have many spotters but not many teachers.

 

[tumbleyoda]

We had a girl break both forearms doing a round off a couple of months ago. It was horrifying.

In the gymnastics center I used to run I had a girl break her arm doing cartwheels in warm up lines. In cheer I have seen a girl tear ACL, MCL, Meniscus doing a standing BHS while being spotted, another break an arm doing a Back Walkover down the wedge, and had a girl who could do double fulls and specialty passes thru to double fulls break a knee cap while only doing a ROBHS (she tried to stop herself when she heard the bell ring for someone getting a new skill and pop her knee went) Regardless to the skill level of the athlete it can happen. It does't always happen on the "dreaded double full that only big/mega gyms can teach properly" (sarcasm folks) which is another reason I say that report years ago was baloney.

Injury prevention is more than be qualified to teach. It is knowing how many reps an athlete can properly handle safely before their risk of injury is raised to unsafe levels. It is in monitoring the amount of hard landings an athlete performs in practice, tumbling class. It is conditioning the body to be successful in each skill, not just a general conditioning program. It is in making them mentally aware to take the next step in progressions safely. it is in the amount of practice reps they complete safely before you ever let them them throw it for real on the floor by themselves and then in having them throw it for real on the competition floor numerous times before they ever think about competing the skill.

Many of these things are simply not practiced for many reasons. None of them good reasons IMO and all increase uncessasry risk to athletes

 

[omgitssydthekid]

In the gymnastics center I used to run I had a girl break her arm doing cartwheels in warm up lines. In cheer I have seen a girl tear ACL, MCL, Meniscus doing a standing BHS while being spotted, another break an arm doing a Back Walkover down the wedge, and had a girl who could do double fulls and specialty passes thru to double fulls break a knee cap while only doing a ROBHS (she tried to stop herself when she heard the bell ring for someone getting a new skill and pop her knee went) Regardless to the skill level of the athlete it can happen. It does't always happen on the "dreaded double full that only big/mega gyms can teach properly" (sarcasm folks) which is another reason I say that report years ago was baloney.

Injury prevention is more than be qualified to teach. It is knowing how many reps an athlete can properly handle safely before their risk of injury is raised to unsafe levels. It is in monitoring the amount of hard landings an athlete performs in practice, tumbling class. It is conditioning the body to be successful in each skill, not just a general conditioning program. It is in making them mentally aware to take the next step in progressions safely. it is in the amount of practice reps they complete safely before you ever let them them throw it for real on the floor by themselves and then in having them throw it for real on the competition floor numerous times before they ever think about competing the skill.

Many of these things are simply not practiced for many reasons. None of them good reasons IMO and all increase uncessasry risk to athletes

I didn't even know it was possible to break a knee cap [emoji15] That sounds absolutely awful.


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[Lovemyoagirl]

@Lovemyoagirl Was there a reason you rated this post as bullying?

None at all, I am so sorry. I must have been on my phone and my bad eyesight and/or bad dexterity caused me to hit the wrong icon. I greatly apologize and will fix my mistake. So sorry.

 

[Official OWECheer]

In the gymnastics center I used to run I had a girl break her arm doing cartwheels in warm up lines. In cheer I have seen a girl tear ACL, MCL, Meniscus doing a standing BHS while being spotted, another break an arm doing a Back Walkover down the wedge, and had a girl who could do double fulls and specialty passes thru to double fulls break a knee cap while only doing a ROBHS (she tried to stop herself when she heard the bell ring for someone getting a new skill and pop her knee went) Regardless to the skill level of the athlete it can happen. It does't always happen on the "dreaded double full that only big/mega gyms can teach properly" (sarcasm folks) which is another reason I say that report years ago was baloney.

Injury prevention is more than be qualified to teach. It is knowing how many reps an athlete can properly handle safely before their risk of injury is raised to unsafe levels. It is in monitoring the amount of hard landings an athlete performs in practice, tumbling class. It is conditioning the body to be successful in each skill, not just a general conditioning program. It is in making them mentally aware to take the next step in progressions safely. it is in the amount of practice reps they complete safely before you ever let them them throw it for real on the floor by themselves and then in having them throw it for real on the competition floor numerous times before they ever think about competing the skill.

Many of these things are simply not practiced for many reasons. None of them good reasons IMO and all increase uncessasry risk to athletes

HO. LY. CRAP. That's some Final Destination mess (not deadly, but still horrifying).

 

[tumbleyoda]

I didn't even know it was possible to break a knee cap [emoji15] That sounds absolutely awful.


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It was. Just a freak injury thing. Thankfully she is healed and back to full strength with no loss of skill or motivation.

 

[omgitssydthekid]

It was. Just a freak injury thing. Thankfully she is healed and back to full strength with no loss of skill or motivation.

Good to hear! Those accidents are the worst because they don't seem to make sense.


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[tumbleyoda]

HO. LY. CRAP. That's some Final Destination mess (not deadly, but still horrifying).

Yea that was definitely one of the strange injuries doing seemingly simple tumbling skills that I have seen. Athlete just locked her leg when her feet hit the ground and it just went.

 

[dance_extreme_94]

Does anyone have any updates on that girl at Worlds? I saw that video felt so bad people kept sharing it and turning it into vine like it was supposed to be funny. That injury was awful.

 

[Cheeranswers]

Does anyone have any updates on that girl at Worlds? I saw that video felt so bad people kept sharing it and turning it into vine like it was supposed to be funny. That injury was awful.

I saw somewhere that she had surgery that week, but haven't heard or seen any updates since.

but she also retweeted the video so I'm assuming it didn't bother her as much as you'd think. the cheerforce girl on the other hand, was for sure bothered.