All-Star Replacing Athletes With New Athletes...

[Pebbles49]

Your question made me curious so I got on google. Some quick numbers (I'm not super familiar with any of these areas besides NC and GA so this is not gospel)

Freehold pop 36,000- 50 mi to NYC pop 8 mil, 60 mi to Philadelphia pop 1.5 mil

Kernersville pop 23,000- 15 mi to Winston Salem pop 236,000, 5 mi to Greensboro pop 279,000, 87 mi to Charlotte pop 800,000

Plano pop 269,000- 20 mi to Dallas pop 1.2 mil

Marietta pop 59,000, 20 mi to Atlanta pop 447,000

I actually did the same thing too... (lol) But I compared the # of well known gyms in the surrounding area... For me, I think NJ have large choice of gyms in my vicinity... For example, I have CJA -5 Mins away, Star Athletics- 25 mins, World Cup- 50 mins, NJSE - 1 HR 20 mins, South Jersey Storm 1 hr + and dozen smaller gyms in between too. So, we have a variety of options this way...

 

[retiredl5cheer]

I actually did the same thing too... (lol) But I compared the # of well known gyms in the surrounding area... For me, I think NJ have large choice of gyms in my vicinity... For example, I have CJA -5 Mins away, Star Athletics- 25 mins, World Cup- 50 mins, NJSE - 1 HR 20 mins, South Jersey Storm 1 hr + and dozen smaller gyms in between too. So, we have a variety of options this way...

Is that with or without traffic? LOL.

 

[Pebbles49]

Is that with or without traffic? LOL.

CJA- 5minutes without traffic, about 8 minutes in traffic, accident and/or road detours... (just 1 exit away on the hwy)....all the other gyms without traffic, I guess!

 

[Mndl]

I actually did the same thing too... (lol) But I compared the # of well known gyms in the surrounding area... For me, I think NJ have large choice of gyms in my vicinity... For example, I have CJA -5 Mins away, Star Athletics- 25 mins, World Cup- 50 mins, NJSE - 1 HR 20 mins, South Jersey Storm 1 hr + and dozen smaller gyms in between too. So, we have a variety of options this way...

The number of cheer gyms in NJ never ceases to amaze me, within 45 mins of me(with traffic) there are probably about 15-20. I can't even guess how many are in the state!

 

[Stephie1012]

The number of cheer gyms in NJ never ceases to amaze me, within 45 mins of me(with traffic) there are probably about 15-20. I can't even guess how many are in the state!

So many small gyms keep popping up every season. Now competitive rec is becoming a thing and they're all getting their own gym space. It's insane! These small gyms are keeping up with the large gyms too, it's impressive. We could be at 10 different gyms within 20 minutes.

 

[CheerBank]

Your question made me curious so I got on google. Some quick numbers (I'm not super familiar with any of these areas besides NC and GA so this is not gospel) ETA I can't speak on how many kids are at each gym, I have no idea. I believe there are around 250 in kville.

Freehold pop 36,000- 50 mi to NYC pop 8 mil, 60 mi to Philadelphia pop 1.5 mil

Kernersville pop 23,000- 15 mi to Winston Salem pop 236,000, 5 mi to Greensboro pop 279,000, 87 mi to Charlotte pop 800,000

Plano pop 269,000- 20 mi to Dallas pop 1.2 mil

Marietta pop 59,000, 20 mi to Atlanta pop 447,000 ETA metro Atlanta is about 5 mil

WC actually does not get many athletes from the NYC area, there are 10-15 if that many across all the teams in total. All star cheer is not as popular as many other sports in the boroughs.

 

[SLM]

So many small gyms keep popping up every season. Now competitive rec is becoming a thing and they're all getting their own gym space. It's insane! These small gyms are keeping up with the large gyms too, it's impressive. We could be at 10 different gyms within 20 minutes.

I run a competitive rec program. There are quite a few in my area. We don't own our own gym we rent space at local all star one night a week per team, and practice at school gym other night. It is getting big because it's the balance between doing "traditional" side line, and pricey travel filled all star. Kids still get custom sparkly uniform, quality instruction (all coaches including myself are certified), and get to compete. We don't do the big two day comps, but for kids who want to do competitive cheer but can't afford even an All Star prep team we are a good solution. We charge less than $650 for the season and offer fundraising opportunities to offset the cost. That price includes their uniform and all comp reg fees, music, etc. Only thing they need to buy is sneakers and an optional bag and warm up.

 

[CheerBank]

I run a competitive rec program. There are quite a few in my area. We don't own our own gym we rent space at local all star one night a week per team, and practice at school gym other night. It is getting big because it's the balance between doing "traditional" side line, and pricey travel filled all star. Kids still get custom sparkly uniform, quality instruction (all coaches including myself are certified), and get to compete. We don't do the big two day comps, but for kids who want to do competitive cheer but can't afford even an All Star prep team we are a good solution. We charge less than $650 for the season and offer fundraising opportunities to offset the cost. That price includes their uniform and all comp reg fees, music, etc. Only thing they need to buy is sneakers and an optional bag and warm up.

Who do you cheer for though? Doesn't a rec program have to cheer for a sport in order to be considered rec?

 

[SLM]

Who do you cheer for though? Doesn't a rec program have to cheer for a sport in order to be considered rec?

Yes if you compete in the traditional rec category. We are a "sister program" of a rec league. So we have teams that cheer football and then compete UCA style-cheer dance cheer. We also have had teams compete leveled just like all star. So if they are competition only then they register and compete just like any other all star program.

Some smaller EP are even starting to break out categories based on traditional rec, competitive only rec, or allstar.

I would never register a team for traditional rec unless every girl on the squad had a minimum of 50-75% attendance for the football season. And we take attendance at every game and have roster initialed by opposing teams cheer coach. I will say though that a vast majority of the time our traditional teams are competing against teams that call themselves rec but have never cheered for a game or cheered like 2 games to "qualify". I'm a rule follower though.

 

[Stephie1012]

Who do you cheer for though? Doesn't a rec program have to cheer for a sport in order to be considered rec?

I think you don't have to as long as you have a cause? Or are non profit? There's a local rec gym that doesn't affiliate with any sport but is a non profit. Their fees are just about the same as my kids allstar gym.

 

[East78]

When you look at not only the population, but the median income you can see where most of the top programs are in larger cities. Miami, Dallas, Houston, NJ/Philly, DC/Baltimore. That leads me to wonder why there are not top gyms/teams from cities like Charlotte, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix. Those popped into my head as areas/demographics that are similar to where other successful programs are.

 

[Sparkle Mom]

When you look at not only the population, but the median income you can see where most of the top programs are in larger cities. Miami, Dallas, Houston, NJ/Philly, DC/Baltimore. That leads me to wonder why there are not top gyms/teams from cities like Charlotte, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix. Those popped into my head as areas/demographics that are similar to where other successful programs are.

I think each location is quite different even if they are large metro areas. Perhaps in Denver or Phoenix cheerleading hasn't been as popular as other sports or activities? It would be interesting to compare the cost of the top programs that are in these areas to less expensive locations in the country. I would think that the price to compete and travel may be a huge factor. The areas you mention are very expensive so many of the families that live there would be far above the national average in income.

 

[tumbleyoda]

When you look at not only the population, but the median income you can see where most of the top programs are in larger cities. Miami, Dallas, Houston, NJ/Philly, DC/Baltimore. That leads me to wonder why there are not top gyms/teams from cities like Charlotte, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix. Those popped into my head as areas/demographics that are similar to where other successful programs are.

Charlotte and Chicago definitely have top teams or programs. (UA, Charlotte AS, CEA, Cheer Athletics, GymTyme IL) Not sure about gyms in the other cities you mentioned but I am sure they have top programs in that area as well.

 

[Leigh31]

Is that with or without traffic? LOL.

OR with or without your airplane? lol. Heading down the parkway, 25 miles = 45 minutes on a good day. Live for my gym so not complaining, but driving farther in more rural states (or driving south to north in nj) is probably equal in time. And I bow to anyone driving from NYC to World Cup...

 

[retiredl5cheer]

OR with or without your airplane? lol. Heading down the parkway, 25 miles = 45 minutes on a good day. Live for my gym so not complaining, but driving farther in more rural states (or driving south to north in nj) is probably equal in time. And I bow to anyone driving from NYC to World Cup...

YES. I lived a few exits from CJA, and it took be 30 minutes to get to practice at 8 and less than 15 minutes after practice ended at 10...