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Not to defend sandbagging, by any means,... but could it be possible that some overly ambitious coach didn't properly evaluate the skill levels of their kids, and had them competing at a level higher than they really should have been at? And one day after getting their 'spankies' handed to them, they decided it would be best to try to max out the scoresheet at their true skill levels?
Or maybe,.. after paying a whole lotta money for a 'Big Name' choreographer to create a phenomenal routine, which they later ended up watering down,... cuz they really couldn't have the majority of their team do the skills they told 'BN' choreographer they could do,...
or maybe,... just maybe,... the gym/owner/coach pushed the kids to compete at a higher level because a handful of parents threatened to take their kids outta the program if they didn't perform 'X' skill that they just got over the summer??? We've all seen teams compete at level 3 with only a handful of tucks that don't face-plant!!
JMO
I think every level individually has about 3 types of kids.
1. Kids who are new to the level and are just starting to attempt level X sills or maybe do not have level X skills but are trying to get them.
2. Kids who can execute level X skills with a decent level of proficiency.
3. Kids who are overall above level X skills so that performing level X skills is not physically hard for them.
Most gyms create teams with types 1 and 2. Few gyms start the year with type 3 kids on a team because those kids would rather be type 1 or 2 on a higher level team. As the season progresses it may become clear to that team/gym/coach that these type 1 or 2 kids in Level X are not winning, so they decide to go Level Y with type 3 kids.
What I do see happening (which will eventually get rid of sand bagging mattering) is that to compete Level X gyms will start ONLY putting type 3 (and maybe type 2.. maybe) kinds on a team.
What do I mean by that? In 5 to 10 years I don't think it will be uncommon for Level 3 teams to have kids on the team with standing tucks, double downs, and maybe even a few fulls. The drive to be competitive will force everyone to be masters of a level before they even compete it.
This is a bit more of a gymnastic style approach than traditional cheerleading. Cheerleading will eventually become bottom heavy and pyramid ish than what we have now (more of a bell curve). Your kid may just get their tuck but won't even be allowed to go on a level 3 team until they have their tuck, standing 3, punch front, all the body positions, and can full down and twist basket. Until then they are level 2.
This is pretty much how gymnastics works. You have to score a certain minimum AA score during the season at Level 5 in order to move up to Level 6 and so on.
I had to do some sleuthing to guess at who you were talking about lolThat's what I figured. I know they had another team go, and assumed crossovers dictated the level. I believe the same reason was responsible for a gym closer to us.
kingston said:I think every level individually has about 3 types of kids.
1. Kids who are new to the level and are just starting to attempt level X sills or maybe do not have level X skills but are trying to get them.
2. Kids who can execute level X skills with a decent level of proficiency.
3. Kids who are overall above level X skills so that performing level X skills is not physically hard for them.
Most gyms create teams with types 1 and 2. Few gyms start the year with type 3 kids on a team because those kids would rather be type 1 or 2 on a higher level team. As the season progresses it may become clear to that team/gym/coach that these type 1 or 2 kids in Level X are not winning, so they decide to go Level Y with type 3 kids.
What I do see happening (which will eventually get rid of sand bagging mattering) is that to compete Level X gyms will start ONLY putting type 3 (and maybe type 2.. maybe) kinds on a team.
What do I mean by that? In 5 to 10 years I don't think it will be uncommon for Level 3 teams to have kids on the team with standing tucks, double downs, and maybe even a few fulls. The drive to be competitive will force everyone to be masters of a level before they even compete it.
This is a bit more of a gymnastic style approach than traditional cheerleading. Cheerleading will eventually become bottom heavy and pyramid ish than what we have now (more of a bell curve). Your kid may just get their tuck but won't even be allowed to go on a level 3 team until they have their tuck, standing 3, punch front, all the body positions, and can full down and twist basket. Until then they are level 2.
I think every level individually has about 3 types of kids.
1. Kids who are new to the level and are just starting to attempt level X sills or maybe do not have level X skills but are trying to get them.
2. Kids who can execute level X skills with a decent level of proficiency.
3. Kids who are overall above level X skills so that performing level X skills is not physically hard for them.
Most gyms create teams with types 1 and 2. Few gyms start the year with type 3 kids on a team because those kids would rather be type 1 or 2 on a higher level team. As the season progresses it may become clear to that team/gym/coach that these type 1 or 2 kids in Level X are not winning, so they decide to go Level Y with type 3 kids.
What I do see happening (which will eventually get rid of sand bagging mattering) is that to compete Level X gyms will start ONLY putting type 3 (and maybe type 2.. maybe) kinds on a team.
What do I mean by that? In 5 to 10 years I don't think it will be uncommon for Level 3 teams to have kids on the team with standing tucks, double downs, and maybe even a few fulls. The drive to be competitive will force everyone to be masters of a level before they even compete it.
This is a bit more of a gymnastic style approach than traditional cheerleading. Cheerleading will eventually become bottom heavy and pyramid ish than what we have now (more of a bell curve). Your kid may just get their tuck but won't even be allowed to go on a level 3 team until they have their tuck, standing 3, punch front, all the body positions, and can full down and twist basket. Until then they are level 2.
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What I do see happening (which will eventually get rid of sand bagging mattering) is that to compete Level X gyms will start ONLY putting type 3 (and maybe type 2.. maybe) kinds on a team.
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I seriously doubt that 99.5% of cheer parents even know what the true role of the USASF is, how it impacts their child, or that they can help make a positive difference in the sport.
And no disrespect, but it's not the parents' place to have a voting role in the USASFs rule making process. JMO
Parents power and strength cones from the fact that they are the consumer and need to spend their $$ wisely. A gym like this doesn't follow the rules no matter who writes them. Parents that are concerned about our sport and athletes could shut this gym's business down.
Also, I think that the PAC is a great addition to the USASF. Please don't think that I believe parents shouldn't get involved. I have focus group discussions with my team parents all the time. They are the customer and we should want them to be happy and safe. But I don't think every Susie's mom should get involved in the nuts and bolts of the USASF.
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I think every level individually has about 3 types of kids.
1. Kids who are new to the level and are just starting to attempt level X sills or maybe do not have level X skills but are trying to get them.
2. Kids who can execute level X skills with a decent level of proficiency.
3. Kids who are overall above level X skills so that performing level X skills is not physically hard for them.
Most gyms create teams with types 1 and 2. Few gyms start the year with type 3 kids on a team because those kids would rather be type 1 or 2 on a higher level team. As the season progresses it may become clear to that team/gym/coach that these type 1 or 2 kids in Level X are not winning, so they decide to go Level Y with type 3 kids.
What I do see happening (which will eventually get rid of sand bagging mattering) is that to compete Level X gyms will start ONLY putting type 3 (and maybe type 2.. maybe) kinds on a team.
What do I mean by that? In 5 to 10 years I don't think it will be uncommon for Level 3 teams to have kids on the team with standing tucks, double downs, and maybe even a few fulls. The drive to be competitive will force everyone to be masters of a level before they even compete it.
This is a bit more of a gymnastic style approach than traditional cheerleading. Cheerleading will eventually become bottom heavy and pyramid ish than what we have now (more of a bell curve). Your kid may just get their tuck but won't even be allowed to go on a level 3 team until they have their tuck, standing 3, punch front, all the body positions, and can full down and twist basket. Until then they are level 2.