All-Star Dear Lifetime Television Programming.

[Mo-Lissa]

LOL We have all of those moms at our gym!!! We all know all gyms, dance, high school cheer, soccer ect. all have these token parents. It is hard to be in a competitive atmosphere, and not want your child to thrive. I admit train wreck had to watch....I just wanna know which role I would play!!!!

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Thats what I thought. But I think that Patty is a much more effective coach. A good amount of pressure, and she pushes them. Abby pushed that one girl to the point where she was going to throw up. And right before they were about to perform their first routine like "Party Party" she was backstage yelling at them and psyching them out!

And I thought that I heard $16,000 dollars a year?!?! That's insane!! I am comparing it to what cheerleading costs, and I think that that is a little outrageous.

And that pyramid thing, where the best girl goes on top, and she gets to be front and center. I would hate that if they had it in my gym!

But I thought that it was pretty entertaining when she was yelling at the minister!! Or when the two moms were double fisting in the bar and basically drunk the rest of the time, and that one mom who was obviously drunk and burnt her kid with the curling iron? Oh my god...

LIFETIME PLEASEEEEEEEEEE BRING BACK THE JERSEY GIRLS <3333 I need my Patty Ann!!!!

The $16,000 a year I'm sure is total of EVERYTHING. I'm sure I spend close to that on cheer - if you count plane tickets, hotel rooms, all the stuff I buy that's not part of the normal cost (tshirts, bows, extra shoes, etc.) - if you actually sit down and add up EVERYTHING spent in a year of cheer, not just tuition/fees/uniform...I think you'd get a number very close to that. Especially if you consider those girls do more than one performance. Think if you crossed over to another team (especially one that had a different uniform) in your own gym - definitely about the same amount.

Now, cost aside...this woman is sooooooooo lucky she doesn't have any involvement with my kids. I would most definitely pick up and assault charge or 2 if someone called me and my child trash...or screamed in my kid's face and basically called her dumb. I don't care if the mom was crazy or wrong. If someone I do business with yelled in my face like that it would. be. on. (Oh, and let someone announce on TV that I pay late...:eek:)

I love me some Patty Ann - and I respect her methods. This Abbie woman is just plain a CRAZY B.

 

[John Butler]

It was DEFINITELY produced for a "drama TV" appeal. I watched it from the link that someone previously provided. There is MAJOR editing done for the watchful eye. She seems like she probably is pretty loud and obnoxious as a coach, but I am quite sure some of this was "made for TV". Here's some of the things I noticed... tell me if you noticed anything else.
1. When performing, there was a CLEAR soundtrack of audience cheering in the background. While I'm sure this woman is well known and has produced great dancers, they try to make it appear that when her dance group is on the state the the audience is just going wild, which is clearly not happening.
2. Several times there are "voice overs" by Abbie when the girls are practicing to make it appear like she is over the top with her comments. One in particular was a clear voice over where she says something like... "Elton John is straighter than those legs".
3. It is clear the producers have encouraged the parents to be "vocal" with their feelings to the coach. I get this from the fact that when they are filming the verbal confrontations there tends to be times where it seems like the parent and/or Abby aren't sure what to say next.

This is why I hate reality TV, because it simply isn't reality. But I guess the assumption is that if it was truly real without producer intervention, people wouldn't watch it. Sad thing is, they're probably right.

 

[mariahnicole1216]

Well I was talking to my best friend (who happens to be a reality TV junkie. She loves all of it. Especially anything based in Jersey) last night and she watched it. She LOVED it. She does not cheer, dance or do any of that stuff. All she knows is from what I tell her. So if she thought that this was great chances are so will the general public. So unfortunately I think its gonna stay :(

 

[Ashay]

I am from Pittsburgh and I know that dance studio very well and I also danced there as a little itty bitty and I only lasted a week before I switched studios. I will tell you that the show doesnt lie Abby is as mean as they come. I know for sure the producers are not making her out to be mean, thats how she always is 24/7!!!! Booo i hated it!

 

[ufomom]

It was DEFINITELY produced for a "drama TV" appeal. I watched it from the link that someone previously provided. There is MAJOR editing done for the watchful eye. She seems like she probably is pretty loud and obnoxious as a coach, but I am quite sure some of this was "made for TV". Here's some of the things I noticed... tell me if you noticed anything else.
1. When performing, there was a CLEAR soundtrack of audience cheering in the background. While I'm sure this woman is well known and has produced great dancers, they try to make it appear that when her dance group is on the state the the audience is just going wild, which is clearly not happening.
2. Several times there are "voice overs" by Abbie when the girls are practicing to make it appear like she is over the top with her comments. One in particular was a clear voice over where she says something like... "Elton John is straighter than those legs".
3. It is clear the producers have encouraged the parents to be "vocal" with their feelings to the coach. I get this from the fact that when they are filming the verbal confrontations there tends to be times where it seems like the parent and/or Abby aren't sure what to say next.

This is why I hate reality TV, because it simply isn't reality. But I guess the assumption is that if it was truly real without producer intervention, people wouldn't watch it. Sad thing is, they're probably right.

You are so right about the audience cheering. There weren't even enough people in the room to make that much noise. I was thinking the kids had no idea who Elton John was and what he had to do with their legs.

I wonder if we will get to see Abby blow up all over the studio before the season is over. :D

 

[omgitskennyy]

The $16,000 a year I'm sure is total of EVERYTHING. I'm sure I spend close to that on cheer - if you count plane tickets, hotel rooms, all the stuff I buy that's not part of the normal cost (tshirts, bows, extra shoes, etc.) - if you actually sit down and add up EVERYTHING spent in a year of cheer, not just tuition/fees/uniform...I think you'd get a number very close to that. Especially if you consider those girls do more than one performance. Think if you crossed over to another team (especially one that had a different uniform) in your own gym - definitely about the same amount.

Now, cost aside...this woman is sooooooooo lucky she doesn't have any involvement with my kids. I would most definitely pick up and
assault charge or 2 if someone called me and my child trash...or screamed in my kid's face and basically called her dumb. I don't care if the mom was crazy or wrong. If someone I do business with yelled in my face like that it would. be. on. (Oh, and let someone announce on TV that I pay late...:eek:)

I love me some Patty Ann - and I respect her methods. This Abbie woman is just plain a CRAZY B.

I didnt realize that I thought that that price was just the price of the tuition to the dance studio!! Haha! But if I were a mom I wouldn't be paying that much for a coach that yells like a crazy person at my daughter and calls her dumb. I dont kniw who could put up with that, especicially at points during their practice the girls looked scared to death that if they did something wrong they would get their heads ripped off!!

And I also forgot to add that they competed like every weekend! And they wanted to have a brand new routine every week? I think that's outrageous, because in cheer it takes months to perfect a routine to compete it, not just like 5 days...

 

[Just-a-Mom]

I didnt realize that I thought that that price was just the price of the tuition to the dance studio!! Haha! But if I were a mom I wouldn't be paying that much for a coach that yells like a crazy person at my daughter and calls her dumb. I dont kniw who could put up with that, especicially at points during their practice the girls looked scared to death that if they did something wrong they would get their heads ripped off!!

And I also forgot to add that they competed like every weekend! And they wanted to have a brand new routine every week? I think that's outrageous, because in cheer it takes months to perfect a routine to compete it, not just like 5 days...

yeah when she said they compete every weekend my jaw dropped. I can't imagine...I hope that was an exaggeration for tv. :eek: No matter what the whole thing was ridiculous! I HOPE she meant what I thought about the money! I think the tuition is similar to cheer. But like I said, being tough is one thing...being outright rude and out of line is another.

 

[omgitssydthekid]

I didnt realize that I thought that that price was just the price of the tuition to the dance studio!! Haha! But if I were a mom I wouldn't be paying that much for a coach that yells like a crazy person at my daughter and calls her dumb. I dont kniw who could put up with that, especicially at points during their practice the girls looked scared to death that if they did something wrong they would get their heads ripped off!!

And I also forgot to add that they competed like every weekend! And they wanted to have a brand new routine every week? I think that's outrageous, because in cheer it takes months to perfect a routine to compete it, not just like 5 days...

The price of tuition could easily be tens of thousands of dollars for competitive dance. I have friends that are siblings that both dance competitively at a studio that is well respected in our area and from what I've seen, it's pretty competitively priced. The older sibling is a boy and the younger is a girl. At their studio, it costs $100 of tuition PER DANCE. I know many people that go there that do anywhere from five to twelve dances. That's anywhere from $500-$1200 just in tuition per month. It's insane how much money that is to pay out for tuition alone.

 

[ztaprincess]

I think I may be one of the only people that think the Cheer Jersey or whatever it was called would have been bad news bears for the cheer industry just like Toddlers and Tiaras is bad for the pagent industry (this Dance Moms show is not good either). Something about the show turned me off and made me worried about how people would view cheer even worse then some already do.

 

[Cody Z.]

THIS SHOW IS A MUST SEE. Haha, I do like the show and I want to see dance, BUT I would much rather see Cheer Jersey... just because I love Central Jersey and bc there is so much talent in that small state! However BOTH shows need to be aired.

Amen.​

 

[kykycheermom]

This show is a train wreck. In every way. It's tabloid "journalism" that creates a very clear villin, the dumb pushy mom, and the poor kid who has been warped by the psychos who surround her. Edited for ratings? Absolutely. Should it continue? NO. There's enough of a stigma around this whole competitive world (pagents/cheer/dance), does there really need to be another show sensationalizing the bad mom(or coach)/poor child dichotomy? Maybe this hits me a little deeper than it should because my first ballet teacher who taught me for years was very much like Abby Lee. She is also one of the few who I feel shaped my self-image and self-worth-and not in a positive way. I was very young when I started dancing, and she was harsh and down right mean from the get-go. Even if I had a perfect home life and a strong female figure in my life to help me understand the right way to look at myself, I feel that being with her as long as I was and looking to her for guidance in this thing I loved and wanted more than anything else, I still would have ended up with and eating disorder that almost consumed my life. These girls are so young, and Abby Lee thinks that screaming and degrading them will produce the champions she wants to prove her name. They are champions in SPITE of her. They push themselves mostly out of fear rather than passion. It should be the other way around. There is a better way to create a champion then making them afraid of you.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

The price of tuition could easily be tens of thousands of dollars for competitive dance. I have friends that are siblings that both dance competitively at a studio that is well respected in our area and from what I've seen, it's pretty competitively priced. The older sibling is a boy and the younger is a girl. At their studio, it costs $100 of tuition PER DANCE. I know many people that go there that do anywhere from five to twelve dances. That's anywhere from $500-$1200 just in tuition per month. It's insane how much money that is to pay out for tuition alone.

Wow that's crazy! :eek:The ones I know (in VB and Chicago are the only places I've seen so I'm only basing on these 2 locations) tuition is around $100 for one dance. BUT most of them get lower the more you do, just like cheer. Like most cheer gyms don't charge you $150/month for tuition for your Junior 3 team that you're on and then another $150 for crossing over to Senior 4.2 and then another $150 for crossing over to hip hop. There are lots of cheerleaders that do multiple teams, but they don't pay full tuition for all of those. The dance studios we've been to/looked at (my older daughter isn't cheering this year...she wants to dance now :rolleyes:, so we've been pricing them out all summer) all work the same way.

I don't know if we'd go somewhere that charged that much! Even Denise Wall (Travis Wall's mom) doesn't charge like that - and I'd definitely consider her studio one of the good ones that I'd be willing to pay more for.

 

[chyeeaaa69]

I have friends in this town that dance that easily pay 10 000 a year, doing competitive jazz, ballet, lyrical, hip hop, and some even take musical theatre. dancers.are.crazy

 

[mariahnicole1216]

I know my high school dance team pays close to 3000 a year. I cant even imagine the price for a studio.