All-Star How Can It Be Considered A "states" Competition??

[Deleted member 11300]

What reason did they give?

 

[nccheerdad]

Wondering if the banners will read, "St_t_ _h_mpions?"

 

[12stepCheermom]

Wondering if the banners will read, "St_t_ _h_mpions?"

Well dangit if I don't have to clean the coffee out of the keyboard!

 

[Bystander]

Is it possible that many of the other gyms across the state have banded together and used their collective buying power to tell the EP if cea comes we won't?

 

[CEA_ATC]

Want to know why they sent our money back?

Because they marketed the event to other gyms as "Hey... CEA doesn't come here"
Which, in my best English to English translation reads: "come on down, Charlotte all-stars (Brubaker owned=Cheersport owned=Varsity Owned) and GAC (love=has had her rear end chapped for several years now by being 3rd place in her own state-- if she is even 3rd)... you dont have to worry about competing against the best competition in the state... we'll let you choose who you want to compete against"

I personally was REALLY looking forward to CSP walking to the front with whatever divisions her team won in front of those other two. The fact that all this petty bickering and back-stabbing is actually beginning to affect kids (mine had 2 teams going to that competition, one of the few that family and grandparents can make it to) is ridiculous. Anyone who actually thinks that Varsity is not corrupting the whole sport has their head in the sand.

Cue the moderators defending this ridiculous USASF via Varsity leadership we have in 3.....2......1......

 

[BlueCat]

Want to know why they sent our money back?

Because they marketed the event to other gyms as "Hey... CEA doesn't come here"
Which, in my best English to English translation reads: "come on down, Charlotte all-stars (Brubaker owned=Cheersport owned=Varsity Owned) and GAC (love=has had her rear end chapped for several years now by being 3rd place in her own state-- if she is even 3rd)... you dont have to worry about competing against the best competition in the state... we'll let you choose who you want to compete against"

I personally was REALLY looking forward to CSP walking to the front with whatever divisions her team won in front of those other two. The fact that all this petty bickering and back-stabbing is actually beginning to affect kids (mine had 2 teams going to that competition, one of the few that family and grandparents can make it to) is ridiculous. Anyone who actually thinks that Varsity is not corrupting the whole sport has their head in the sand.

Cue the moderators defending this ridiculous USASF via Varsity leadership we have in 3.....2......1......

If a for-profit, private company wants to exclude a person or gym from their event, do they have that right? Looking at it another way, if CSP really doesn't like a particular athlete or family for whatever reason, can she simply tell them that they aren't allowed to be a part of her gym?

NOTE: I believe that she/you have the right to complain and raise a stink about it as well - just asking a question.

 

[CEA_ATC]

After they have said that we can come, then send our check back?

Yes, they have the right, but it is shady business practice, and they turn down a crap load of money FOREVER by doing something like this... so bad business as well, IMHO.

It is widely known that CEA is looking for alternatives to Cheersport regionals, so why on earth would you turn us down? To weaken your competition? To keep someone else happy? I am just sick of the drama of a corrupt structure affecting children, which it now is.

#cheerneedschange

 

[12stepCheermom]

Is it possible that many of the other gyms across the state have banded together and used their collective buying power to tell the EP if cea comes we won't?

I'm not an owner but I can say our gym hasn't...we like competing against CEA. To be the best you have to beat the best and we've never backed down from a fight on the mat. Sometimes we win, sometimes they win...but it's always good competition. We dropped this comp last year because if jacked up scoring and shady placements two years in a row (that had nothing to so with CEA).

 

[12stepCheermom]

Want to know why they sent our money back?

Because they marketed the event to other gyms as "Hey... CEA doesn't come here"
Which, in my best English to English translation reads: "come on down, Charlotte all-stars (Brubaker owned=Cheersport owned=Varsity Owned) and GAC (love=has had her rear end chapped for several years now by being 3rd place in her own state-- if she is even 3rd)... you dont have to worry about competing against the best competition in the state... we'll let you choose who you want to compete against"

I personally was REALLY looking forward to CSP walking to the front with whatever divisions her team won in front of those other two. The fact that all this petty bickering and back-stabbing is actually beginning to affect kids (mine had 2 teams going to that competition, one of the few that family and grandparents can make it to) is ridiculous. Anyone who actually thinks that Varsity is not corrupting the whole sport has their head in the sand.

Cue the moderators defending this ridiculous USASF via Varsity leadership we have in 3.....2......1......

If they marketed it that way maybe that's why we dropped it. We like quality competition and here lately it's really been coming from CEA, Elite and Cheer Corps. We actually won't see CEA at all this year (not the Charlotte gym anyway, don't know about the others) and I'm bummed about that. It was always a great match up.

 

[kristenthegreat]

What I don't understand is WHY they thought this was a good idea- at all. Gone are the days where this sort of thing will be kept hush-hush..they HAD to know doing this that everyone would see it for what it was and that people would spread the news. All I do now is look unfavorably at this competition and those who feel proud of what they've done..and this wasn't a competition that was ever on my radar.

While it's legal, it sure as heck ain't good business..

 

[tumbleyoda]

After they have said that we can come, then send our check back?

Yes, they have the right, but it is shady business practice, and they turn down a crap load of money FOREVER by doing something like this... so bad business as well, IMHO.

It is widely known that CEA is looking for alternatives to Cheersport regionals, so why on earth would you turn us down? To weaken your competition? To keep someone else happy? I am just sick of the drama of a corrupt structure affecting children, which it now is.

#cheerneedschange

Another Question pondered: If CEA went to this competition and the other gyms then pulled out, leaving CEA no one to compete against at all, would that be preferable? That wouldn't not be a states either but a showcase so to speak. What if that was the decision the EP was faced with? Not saying they were, but knowing just a little bit of the dynamics of the gym struggles/drama in NC that is not too far out of the range of possibility.

 

[12stepCheermom]

What I don't understand is WHY they thought this was a good idea- at all. Gone are the days where this sort of thing will be kept hush-hush..they HAD to know doing this that everyone would see it for what it was and that people would spread the news. All I do now is look unfavorably at this competition and those who feel proud of what they've done..and this wasn't a competition that was ever on my radar.

While it's legal, it sure as heck ain't good business..

especially given the fact their "cash cow" (which is the Spirit of Hope Nationals in Charlotte) is right around the corner (MLK weekend). They may be impacting their bottom line in that competition by doing this with their smaller, less attended one. I like SOH production, it runs on time, great atmosphere (the awards announcer is absolutely annoying as $#%@), proceeds are split to a good cause too...but it is on the pricey side in terms of athlete and spectator fees. And they used to be total nazi's about videoing (like, I've seen people escorted out for it) so last year I didn't even bring the video camera.....then they didn't enforce it at all and people video'd everywhere.

Just wondering if its good business sense to have this all coming out when people are registering for the start of Nationals season. There are gyms that drive from multiple states to this one that could easily put those same miles on the car in another direction and attend a different competition.

 

[BlueCat]

What I don't understand is WHY they thought this was a good idea- at all. Gone are the days where this sort of thing will be kept hush-hush..they HAD to know doing this that everyone would see it for what it was and that people would spread the news. All I do now is look unfavorably at this competition and those who feel proud of what they've done..and this wasn't a competition that was ever on my radar.

While it's legal, it sure as heck ain't good business..

There are potentially other reasons that an event producer would "uninvite" someone to an event. I would be interested to hear the event producer's side of it before deciding who was "right" in the situation.

 

[BowsnBling]

Thanks, and it is political drama!! I forgot to add, that when our competition schedule was decided upon, the EP for this event was called and we were given prior approval to attend!!!

Why would you need prior approval to attend, I have never called a company and asked if we were welcome. We just send in our stuff and compete.

 

[kristenthegreat]

There are potentially other reasons that an event producer would "uninvite" someone to an event. I would be interested to hear the event producer's side of it before deciding who was "right" in the situation.

There is always the very real possibility.