All-Star Idea: Multi Location Gyms Must Have Different Colors At Each Gym Location

[mstealtoyou]

I'm personally a big fan of your gym and only used your gym as an example because you call yourselves the "Teal Army" and so I can see how a gym that identifies itself with a color, would have a harder time with this rule.

Ditto being fan's of your program as well!! And as I said before this is exactly why I love the FB. Where else could I get a different side of a situation without the nice people outside the "Teal Army" that's willing to explain it to me. So thank you again!

 

[mstealtoyou]

With the takeover of mega gyms and expanding and franchising it is actually eating up a lot of local competition. A certain mega gym owns an area (which is fine). But what allows a mega gym to grow and succeed locally is having local competition to compete against. One positive thing for mega gyms is if they were forced to all have separate colors (but same logo brand) they could always compete against themselves and always have guaranteed competition. The X-Evolution competitions are decent ideas but they can't replace competing against someone else. They are showcases, not competitions. If you were to grow a mega gym to own an entire region so much that it choked out all competition it would eventually hurt business and the growth of cheer.

In gymnastics its always nice because people can compete inner gym just fine. Cheer with different gyms with the same uniforms that is a hard sell to parents. 'Why are we always just competing against ourselves?'. This creates competition.

I don't think there needs to be unity from branded gym to branded gym. Besides helping start up a gym once going what does it provide?

Correction. The X-Evolution is a competition. Teams from the same age and skill level are competing against each other, just like if they were at a Spirit Sport's event or where ever. The difference is that the teams get instant feedback from the judges verbally. Team feedback sheets are also written for the staff to refer to for tweaking routines. The only difference is that the teams win "best pyramid". "Best stunts" "Best tumbling" "Best Choreography". So instead of winning 1st, 2nd or 3rd you might win a category or 2 or 3 or 4 and there is a declared "winner" the kids find out at the end of their "division"

We also do tumbling contests
stunting contests
dance contests
best jumps or jumps to back contest


It's a pretty cool day and I have really enjoyed the one's we've had. I like that our DJ plays music from back in the day. He also does a great job of keeping folks entertained. And that can't be easy!!

 

[King]

Correction. The X-Evolution is a competition. Teams from the same age and skill level are competing against each other, just like if they were at a Spirit Sport's event or where ever. The difference is that the teams get instant feedback from the judges verbally. Team feedback sheets are also written for the staff to refer to for tweaking routines. The only difference is that the teams win "best pyramid". "Best stunts" "Best tumbling" "Best Choreography". So instead of winning 1st, 2nd or 3rd you might win a category or 2 or 3 or 4 and there is a declared "winner" the kids find out at the end of their "division"

We also do tumbling contests
stunting contests
dance contests
best jumps or jumps to back contest


It's a pretty cool day and I have really enjoyed the one's we've had. I like that our DJ plays music from back in the day. He also does a great job of keeping folks entertained. And that can't be easy!!

Sorry to say it wasn't at all a competition, but I don't think it could replace competing against someone and getting 1st, 2nd, 3rd. It is a nice complementary (not supplementary) thing.

 

[Cheer Dad]

I have a question for the people who are saying that having different colors would be like being on lower teams... If you chose not to go to the "main" location, are you not already choosing to be on a lower team, if indeed they are lower? I guess what I'm asking is if you made the choice to go to location B, C, or D instead of A, what would be the difference what color your uniform is?

What if commuting to the main location was not a possibility?


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[Ashley]

I still don't really get the point. Is the idea for teams to differentiate themselves from their sister programs so they can compete against each other? So competitors think they're competing against different gyms rather than one big mega gym?

I was at a competition where a gym had teams from 3 (4?) of it's locations. They had different uniforms and I still no idea which was which. But does it matter? Should ECE MA to go back to being EE's red and blue and ECE CT can stick with the blue and back from its Celebrity days? Should ECE Central stay pink and black? So what? What difference does it make?

Is the fear that one gym will send it's J2 team from location B to the summit in place of location A? Couldn't this be alleviated by registering gyms by their location? The schedule should say ECE CT or ECE MA instead of just ECE. Your bid is tied to not just your gym name, but location. I know that Pro Athletics and ECE are both good at differentiating their satellite locations.

 

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Is the fear that one gym will send it's J2 team from location B to the summit in place of location A? Couldn't this be alleviated by registering gyms by their location? The schedule should say ECE CT or ECE MA instead of just ECE. Your bid is tied to not just your gym name, but location. I know that Pro Athletics and ECE are both good at differentiating their satellite locations.

Agreed that a summit bid should go to the registered gym location.

Though if a multi-gym program was going to be brazen enough to send a team from a different location, I hardly think a different color uniform would be a deterrent.

Is it maybe time to put a concrete definition of a location AND multi-gym program together and spell out some rules on what a location can do / MGP can do? (Is there an official definition? I don't know.)


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[catlady]

Is the fear that one gym will send it's J2 team from location B to the summit in place of location A? Couldn't this be alleviated by registering gyms by their location? The schedule should say ECE CT or ECE MA instead of just ECE. Your bid is tied to not just your gym name, but location. I know that Pro Athletics and ECE are both good at differentiating their satellite locations.

I don't want to speak for @King, but he stated as mega programs expand they are going to take away local competitors so those programs will mainly have their own program, different locations, to go up against.

Picture someone buying the Cardinals and Cubs, they decide to put them in identical uniforms and colors and they still play against each other. The Cubs just aren't quite up to the Cards, so to be fair and not have anyone feel badly, the owner tells both teams they have to cheer each other on, and tells the fans to do the same. The umpires shouldn't have any problems distinguishing teams since they will continue to have a number on their back and are either on base, running, outfield, pitcher's mound, etc. The Card fans shouldn't have any issues cheering on the Cubs, they're adults. The Cubs and Cards love cheering each other on, it's good sportsmanship. The MLB and commissioner should just allow owners to choose how to run their own business even if they can't tell them apart. There is absolutely nothing confusing, awkward or annoying about this situation. Right?

To me it isn't about a gym not being honest and sending the other team to the Summit, but about the judges getting confused and possibly sending the wrong team.

 

[Ashley]

But we're not a head to head sport. So what if two teams in the same division have the same uniform? I just don't understand what it solves by making them look different. Maybe I'm just being obtuse. Dressing my sister gym in different colors doesn't mean that I'm going to think they're any more or less family or our competition.

The only way I can see it causing a conflict when giving out bids or speciality awards is if the judges go "oh we like that team from ACE. Let's give them a bid." And then accidentally give it to the wrong one.

I only mentioned the dishonesty because I thought that's what King was getting at earlier in the thread.


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[12stepCheermom]

So, I've thought about this thread a lot over the past few weeks. I wonder if the expansions of the Rays, World Cup, Cali, Cheer Athletics, Rockstar, Brandon, etc etc. that have happened over the past several weeks was on some industry radar earlier and sparked either the question or the conversation itself. I always thought this thread sort of came out of nowhere...and now looking at the post 13-14, pre-14-15 season, I'm thinking it wasn't. Thoughts?

 

[CheerBank]

So, I've thought about this thread a lot over the past few weeks. I wonder if the expansions of the Rays, World Cup, Cali, Cheer Athletics, Rockstar, Brandon, etc etc. that have happened over the past several weeks was on some industry radar earlier and sparked either the question or the conversation itself. I always thought this thread sort of came out of nowhere...and now looking at the post 13-14, pre-14-15 season, I'm thinking it wasn't. Thoughts?

I had always figured there was a reason behind the originial post. :D

 

[mstealtoyou]

I had always figured there was a reason behind the originial post. :D

I think we all did..........Very seldom does King start random threads.

 

[DreamOfTheRingg]

I dont think uniforms should be differant colors but I think each locations should have a neon colored boy like one could have bright yellow and another gym can have bright pink and they can tell the gyms apart. Ive always liked when teams wore bows that didnt match there uniform (like some cali teams)


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[12stepCheermom]

I dont think uniforms should be differant colors but I think each locations should have a neon colored boy like one could have bright yellow and another gym can have bright pink and they can tell the gyms apart. Ive always liked when teams wore bows that didnt match there uniform (like some cali teams)


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Whew! Had to read this a few times to realize boy=bow.

Not really into neon colored boys. That's a serious spray tan gone wrong right there.


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[mamabear]

.....although, a neon colored boy would set each team apart....

 

[luv2cheer92]

Whew! Had to read this a few times to realize boy=bow.

Not really into neon colored boys. That's a serious spray tan gone wrong right there.


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Haha I was thoroughly confused for a minute there, that would be pretty entertaining though.


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