All-Star If The U Of Alabama Didn't Allow Rings To Be Made...

[MissBee]

But a release signed by an athlete is for their person, not the logo of the university.

I think what our attorney "won" on was that as a cheerleader (or any other athlete) they are acting as a representative of the university, and therefore can sign away use of their image in the university uniform/logo at that event. I'm just thinking back 8 years ago to something that I didn't pay close attention to the ins and outs of (that's what the attorneys make the big bucks for, right?).

 

[Cheer_Explosion_Coach]

But what I'm thinking @kingston is looking for is why would UA allow them to sign these papers and wear the University A at UCA Nationals. Almost, like if you are a club team you can wear the name of the University, but not the actual logo or logo font. LSU has GEAUX font that is licensed by the University and cannot be used by anyone except authorized teams ie football, basketball, baseball, etc....

 

[coachrah]

But what I'm thinking @kingston is looking for is why would UA allow them to sign these papers and wear the University A at UCA Nationals. Almost, like if you are a club team you can wear the name of the University, but not the actual logo or logo font. LSU has GEAUX font that is licensed by the University and cannot be used by anyone except authorized teams ie football, basketball, baseball, etc....

I guess people are assuming that The University and their liscensing department and AD were consulted before the athletes signed off on this. Typically, coaches download all the forms and hand out to their team members. So let's ask the question, how many college coaches bring this form to their University AD or liscensing department?

 

[AScheer]

My thought of the day after just seeing an Old Navy commercial is why the college will let them make clothing with the A on it but the cheerleaders can't even use the A on their rings? Makes no sense!

 

[Cheer_Explosion_Coach]

I can't confidently say because I'm not a college coach. I kind of have mixed emotions about whether or not AD's would actually care about their cheerleaders competing and having their rights waived to UCA/NCA for publications purposes. On one hand, let's be honest, cheerleading is way under the radar of most universities the size of UA. On the other, if anyone represents these universities, whether officially at a corporate sponsorship event or unofficially at a UCA cheer competition, all the responsibility falls back on the university. So I'd assume these coaches would be in hot water if these papers are not approved by the AD first. I'd be interested to see what the answer to your question is.

Could you imagine the University of Alabama having to get new uniforms (without the A) made just to compete at UCA nationals? It almost sounds like that what the university is implying. Varsity Brands would be all in support of this haha.

 

[Cheer_Explosion_Coach]

My thought of the day after just seeing an Old Navy commercial is why the college will let them make clothing with the A on it but the cheerleaders can't even use the A on their rings? Makes no sense!

$$$ If the logo is licensed then a certain % of each sell goes to the university. Old Navy has to pay to use that logo.

 

[coachrah]

I might be taking this out of context, but I was under the impression that college cheer teams are only allowed to compete at one "National" competition per year... or at least that's the rule with NCA, I think?

I still think it's unfortunate that they were not allowed to use the A for the rings. It's too common to see the cheerleaders at colleges and universities be held to the same high standards as all of the "real athletes" but not receive the same support.

Unviversities do not put this restriction on their cheerleading teams. UCA does not allow compete only teams to their event. NCA sent out a mass e-mail in 2008 allowing them to know that if they competed at another event producer's collegiate National (Cheersport and JamBrands comes to mind) and if they were announced as a National Champion at another event (beside UCA and NCA) they would not be allowed to particpate at NCA. The logic detailed was that these were the most prestigious events. Curious that when asked about the path to Nationals, the testimony was that "anyone could go...it was open to all.

 

[MissBee]

My thought of the day after just seeing an Old Navy commercial is why the college will let them make clothing with the A on it but the cheerleaders can't even use the A on their rings? Makes no sense!

Because the University gets $$$ from Old Navy (ON had to buy the licensing rights) and they weren't making any money off the cheerleader's rings.

 

[coachrah]

I can't confidently say because I'm not a college coach. I kind of have mixed emotions about whether or not AD's would actually care about their cheerleaders competing and having their rights waived to UCA/NCA for publications purposes. On one hand, let's be honest, cheerleading is way under the radar of most universities the size of UA. On the other, if anyone represents these universities, whether officially at a corporate sponsorship event or unofficially at a UCA cheer competition, all the responsibility falls back on the university. So I'd assume these coaches would be in hot water if these papers are not approved by the AD first. I'd be interested to see what the answer to your question is.

Could you imagine the University of Alabama having to get new uniforms (without the A) made just to compete at UCA nationals? It almost sounds like that what the university is implying. Varsity Brands would be all in support of this haha.

AD's typically manage 15 sports and more. It is not up to the AD to care but the departments that protect the rights of the logo.If any company whether GK, Varsity, or Momandpopshop Inc. is going to produce the University logo on any apparel it must be approved and sent over by the liscensing division before they send the logo out. I am sure that some Universities might enjoy the publicity that thier cheer team gets by being on ESPN or FSB. However, as Kingston noted UCA makes money off of this. This is a much different story.

 

[drewpate]

I was under the impression that a lot of competition companies (including worlds) had to pay to have their competition on tv, and they didn't net a profit from the advertising. Is this still true? (or am i just pretending I heard this)