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[King]

I think that score came about when some college teams began wearing uniforms that strayed from the athletic look and moved toward some bling.

Do other sports have uniform rules? How specific are they?

 

[caitlyn_the_camille]

@gofriars610 and @SharkDad Got it, thanks! And I wasn't referring solely to your post SharkDad, I was just getting that vibe overall. I agree that it's not a good thing. If it's for appearance, I understand that's part of life and you get judged on your appearance for different reasons every day. I still don't agree with it, but that's just how it goes. And I don't know enough about college cheerleading to have a significant opinion, but I know from experience that there's more to a flyer than what she weighs. Another thing I know for sure is that a nearby college dance team has weight standards and enforces them heavier than their coed cheer team. They require monthly weigh ins, and I can't understand a reason your weight should matter on a dance team if you're a talented dancer.
(By the way, sorry in advance for the errors in this post... I'm coming home from church on the worlds pot-holiest backroad.)


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[coachrah]

Do other sports have uniform rules? How specific are they?

The rules for NCAA sports and uniforms are specific to each sport. The rules for the size of the manufacturer logo are also specific.

 

[Official OWECheer]

@gofriars610 and @SharkDad Got it, thanks! And I was referring solely to your post SharkDad, I was just getting that vibe overall. I agree that it's not a good thing. If it's for appearance, I understand that's part of life and you get judged on your appearance for different reasons every day. I still don't agree with it, but that's just how it goes. And I don't know enough about college cheerleading to have a significant opinion, but I know from experience that there's more to a flyer than what she weighs. Another thing I know for sure is that a nearby college dance team has weight standards and enforces them heavier than their coed cheer team. They require monthly weigh ins, and I can't understand a reason your weight should matter on a dance team if you're a talented dancer.
(By the way, sorry in advance for the errors in this post... I'm coming home from church on the worlds pot-holiest backroad.)


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"Collegiate appearance" should only refer to hairstyle, makeup and uniform. Not body type.

 

[King]

The rules for NCAA sports and uniforms are specific to each sport. The rules for the size of the manufacturer logo are also specific.

Interesting. Any examples you could post?

 

[coachrah]

Interesting. Any examples you could post?

Baseball: Page 24 - 2013 & 2014 NCAA Baseball Rules

 

[coachrah]

Baseball: Page 24 - 2013 & 2014 NCAA Baseball Rules

Basketball (starts page 7) : https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf

 

[coachrah]

@BowCat it's awesome that you started the conversation in this topic.

There are many programs, both all-star and college that allow/promote unhealthy behavior. From drugs to the eating disorders that people speak of.

I think if a coach knows or participates with athletes in ANY drug use they are commuting a crime, I also believe it is equally a crime to put any weight or body image requirements on athletes, it's a form of abuse. I think some may intend to ensure skills can be accomplished, but I have seen many actually say "you're too fat" "you can't eat certain foods" or "you have to stay under this certain weight."

Eventually the safety of the athletes in all types (not just skills rules) must be considered by the governing bodies and programs.

If that's from my statement, I didn't intend to imply it is currently illegal. I do feel it is a crime and a form of athlete abuse to force weight standards on athletes rather than skill standards. Especially making image statements at teen/young college athletes.

Same goes for ignoring/overlooking drug use


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Welcome to the Female Athlete Triad Coalition Website!

Females in sports like running, gymnastics , figure skating are more prone to the female athlete triad syndrome:
Dangers of Female Athlete Triad Syndrome | Eating Disorder Hope

 

[SmileyRyleigh]

I just graduated from high school and the amount of partying, drugs, and other things just AMAZES me. I never partied or did drugs but I'll go with my friends to make sure they have a ride home or (if I can) prevent anyone from doing anything stupid. I can't even count how many times I've been called to go pick someone up from a party because they didn't have a ride. Drugs is a huge thing at my school (mostly weed) but every class I had there was ALWAYS at least one person who was stoned. Freshman being caught with alcohol in their water bottles, every time you walked into any of the bathrooms it smelled like cigarettes and weed, it was just an awful experience. I also experienced the "prescription drug" thing while I was in school. I take vyvanse and before any big tests or the ACT/SAT I had friends, even people I had never spoken to before begging me to let them buy a pill, one kid even offered to give me $200 for 5 pills because he couldn't find anyone else that took vyvanse. I always said no and I never sold any but I just don't understand the dependance some kids have with drugs and alcohol. Waking up hungover and with no memory of what I did last night is not how high school should be spent.


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[GreenStormLucy]

Did the "pulling" of the athletes after awards affect the final placement of teams? I thought that the US was much more developed in cheer than other nations so it seems unusual that drug testing has begun overseas and not here.

As far as i know, they didn´t find any illegal substances. But, since this information is second hand, i can´t guarantee that the tested athletes were clean. And i don´t know if the tested athletes were choosen by the EP or the coach/team.

I think it would be ridiculous to let the coach decide who is doing the test. Take the team rooster, pick someone, test them.
And i would test between warm-ups and competing. Stand in the line where they wait for pass check, and randomly pull someone out. You will have the results before awards and could take action if an athlete was positive on any substance that isn´t legal.

But i think it´s a good start. I´m not 100 % percent sure this was the first time they did drug testing in germany, but this is what i was told. And they are planning to do this the next season on big comps. So :cheering: for taking responsibility. At least a little bit.

I know from german coed teams (senior teams so most are adults) that were told by their coaches to avoid drugs overall, no alcohol the days before comps, no red bull or prescription drugs. 10 years ago no one cared about this with senior teams.
If you want to be professional at what you do, you have to follow rules. Even more when it could have an impact on your teammates.

None of my adult athletes or coaches are allowed to drink alcohol (don´t get me started on drugs) when we travel to camps or competitions. You are here to do your job. If you can´t be 3 days without a drink, i´m side eying you so hard that i get a head ache.

We are travelling with minors all the time, and i don´t give a marshmallow if you are legally allowed to drink - be a role model.

Stepping of my soap box.

 

[Helen uk uni cheer]

As far as i know, they didn´t find any illegal substances. But, since this information is second hand, i can´t guarantee that the tested athletes were clean. And i don´t know if the tested athletes were choosen by the EP or the coach/team.

I think it would be ridiculous to let the coach decide who is doing the test. Take the team rooster, pick someone, test them.
And i would test between warm-ups and competing. Stand in the line where they wait for pass check, and randomly pull someone out. You will have the results before awards and could take action if an athlete was positive on any substance that isn´t legal.

But i think it´s a good start. I´m not 100 % percent sure this was the first time they did drug testing in germany, but this is what i was told. And they are planning to do this the next season on big comps. So :cheering: for taking responsibility. At least a little bit.

I know from german coed teams (senior teams so most are adults) that were told by their coaches to avoid drugs overall, no alcohol the days before comps, no red bull or prescription drugs. 10 years ago no one cared about this with senior teams.
If you want to be professional at what you do, you have to follow rules. Even more when it could have an impact on your teammates.

None of my adult athletes or coaches are allowed to drink alcohol (don´t get me started on drugs) when we travel to camps or competitions. You are here to do your job. If you can´t be 3 days without a drink, i´m side eying you so hard that i get a head ache.

We are travelling with minors all the time, and i don´t give a marshmallow if you are legally allowed to drink - be a role model.

Stepping of my soap box.

With my university we are not allowed to drink alcohol the week before comp. This year it was for 2 weeks and we had 2 comp weekends in a row. There were no sanctions if you didnt but I only know of 2 who did but they kept it secret from the coach.

 

[King]

Baseball: Page 24 - 2013 & 2014 NCAA Baseball Rules

Thank you. It is pretty in depth. I kinda like that.

 

[kristenthegreat]

I just never understood drinking during a competition weekend. We had one in Atlantic City and I was like 'No. Bed now thank you.'

Nothing about a hangover should ever be mixed with the flashing lights, loud sounds, and physical dangers required during competition. That's a surefire ticket to non stop misery.

 

[Official OWECheer]

I just graduated from high school and the amount of partying, drugs, and other things just AMAZES me. I never partied or did drugs but I'll go with my friends to make sure they have a ride home or (if I can) prevent anyone from doing anything stupid. I can't even count how many times I've been called to go pick someone up from a party because they didn't have a ride. Drugs is a huge thing at my school (mostly weed) but every class I had there was ALWAYS at least one person who was stoned. Freshman being caught with alcohol in their water bottles, every time you walked into any of the bathrooms it smelled like cigarettes and weed, it was just an awful experience. I also experienced the "prescription drug" thing while I was in school. I take vyvanse and before any big tests or the ACT/SAT I had friends, even people I had never spoken to before begging me to let them buy a pill, one kid even offered to give me $200 for 5 pills because he couldn't find anyone else that took vyvanse. I always said no and I never sold any but I just don't understand the dependance some kids have with drugs and alcohol. Waking up hungover and with no memory of what I did last night is not how high school should be spent.

I have been in class and heard kids bragging about the fact that they were too drunk to remember what day it was, talking about who hooked up with who.... it's disgusting.
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I've been in class and heard kids bragging about having been so drunk that they didn't know what day it was, talking about who hooked up with who.... it disgusting. I'm willing to bet that some of these same people don't think that they fit the 'American teenager' stereotype.

 

[SmileyRyleigh]

What also sickens me is the parents that don't even care. Why would you buy your 16 year old and their friends alcohol? And for the parents who are completely oblivious-HOW?! Do you not see their twitter and instagram? It's ridiculous.