All-Star Twerk Ban

[MissBee]

That is a very specific situation. An extremely ridiculous move by the University in my opinion. And it wasn't really that cut and dry. The high school she was student teaching at pressured the University to discipline her or they would stop taking student teachers from the college. They claimed it was "promoting underage drinking," even though she was 25 when they picture was taken. Absurd. It was much more to do with the high school being unhappy with seeing the picture as opposed to how you painted the story. The University didn't just randomly find the picture and decide to not give her a degree. Furthermore, she only seems to have lost the lawsuit because of technicality. As stated by the judge, she University was not obligated to giver her the certificate if she hadn't completed all her student teaching hours.

Yes, a specific situation and I do agree that it was extreme...however, you said that potential employers don't check your social media presence, and I was giving an example of how what you post online can affect your employment opportunities.

 

[BigBow]

why is it that everything certainpeople post are rude, condescending, and argumentative. everywhere i look on this board they're being rude about something or to someone. if you hate us that much, then leave. please. :banghead:

 

[Cheer Dad]

So does give them the right to access our emails as well?
But along the same area of discussion, I can see my car parked in my driveway on Google Earth.

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[ACEDAD]

First off, the lack of reading comprehension you all have shown is astounding. If you actually took a second to read my words carefully, you would understand why I feel all of these replies are so asinine.

Now, onto the second part of my original post where most of you seem to have read with your eyes closed. I said, "What you do in your personal life IS and ALWAYS should be separate from you work life. They are two completely different things." They key word is should.

If you meant the key word to be "should" you should have capitalized that word instead of "is" and "always". Might have changed the emphasis of your point and helped people to understand what you were trying to say.

 

[Cheer Dad]

So does give them the right to access our emails as well?
But along the same area of discussion, I can see my car parked in my driveway on Google Earth.

Emails tend to be more private in nature and to my knowledge are not searchable by using Google, Yahoo or other search engines. No, I do not think an employer should have access to a personal email unless that individual uses it for business and even then I am very reluctant to consider that option. I do know, and am sure most people also do, that employers can access your work mail as long as they have a written policy informing you of their ability to do so. They are also required to keep back-up of all electronic transmissions for a set period of time, though I am not sure of that time frame.

What we post on a 'public' style forum is definitely more public than emails since it is searchable and very easy for prospective employes to so and there is no law saying they can't do a public search. I do not think they should have the right to make us to turn over passwords but there are definitely scenarios where I could see exceptions being made.

 

[AllstarCheerKenzie]

I believe that cheerleaders who post a video of them twerking deserve a suspension because their gym doesn't want that cheerleader 2 represent them if they are doing inappropriate dance moves. I think it would be worse if the cheerleader was wearing their cheer uniform with the name showing but I can see why their gym would get mad over their cheerleaders posting inappropriate videos like that.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Thank you for replying with a well thought out and researched reply. That said, when you bring a religion based University into the picture that changes the situation in my opinion. I mean, this is private college founded by the Methodist Episcopal Church! I still don't think it's right, but I see why she was denied admittance. They have their own moral standards that they live by so I guess it makes sense why they would hold their students to those same standards.

One school doing it is reason enough to mention. I hardly think my 11 year old knows where she is going to apply for grad school. Same goes for high school kids. I'd hate for them to find out in college that those videos they made senior year are keeping them from their dream school. Sure, right now they're thinking "Pffffffft. A religious school? No way! I can't wait to get outta here and be freeeeeee!" Five years from now they may feel very differently. The whole point is that sometimes kids don't realize that their actions have more far-reaching consequences than they are equipped to realize in their youth.

Furthermore, your reply to the other posts was ridiculous. Way too condescending. Having a master's degree doesn't make you an authority on admissions - or anything else for that matter. It MIGHT (notice capitalization indicating emphasis on might) make you an authority on whatever your master's is in, but that's it - and even that is questionable.

I apologize - I certainly don't have a master's degree; I'm still working on a lowly bachelor's degree. But even I know the difference in effect and affect. (Normally I wouldn't care, but if you're going to come on here and basically call everyone an idiot, then your post had better be PERFECT and ERROR FREE)

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[Aussiekat]

Unless I'm applying for a job in national security or similar, any potential employer who asks for my passwords is gonna see me twerk outta that interview faster than they can say "please tell me about your biggest weakness" (which by the way is whiskey and subtweeting… bad bad mix but I just can't seem to help myself ;) ).

 

[Cheer Dad]

Unless I'm applying for a job in national security or similar, any potential employer who asks for my passwords is gonna see me twerk outta that interview faster than they can say "please tell me about your biggest weakness" (which by the way is whiskey and subtweeting… bad bad mix but I just can't seem to help myself ;) ).

Depending on the agency they may not need to ask for your passwords, just saying.

 

[Cheermom1969]

REPORT: The Federal Government Wants To Know Your Account Passwords - Business Insider

Since this thread has gone six-ways sideways, I ran across this... Feds won't ask you for your password, they'll just take it.

 

[Cheer Dad]

REPORT: The Federal Government Wants To Know Your Account Passwords - Business Insider

Since this thread has gone six-ways sideways, I ran across this... Feds won't ask you for your password, they'll just take it.

:eek:

 

[cheerKT]

First off, the lack of reading comprehension you all have shown is astounding. If you actually took a second to read my words carefully, you would understand why I feel all of these replies are so asinine.

Allow me to elaborate....

My first point was that you will not get denied admittance into grad school for having a vine where you are twerking. Are you guys still with me? None of you even commented on this part of my post. We're talking about grad school, not getting a job in the big scary real world. Admittance into grad school is determined purely off of merit, grades, gpa etc.... But David, how do you know this? I have been admitted into grad school and successfully obtained my Master's Degree. Throughout my time in grad school I guess I spoke to, oh I don't know, a couple of professors (this is called sarcasm are you still with me?). I know what they look for and I know how they choose people. They want the department to look dignified on paper so they would never turned down a talented writer, with an outstanding gpa, who would write a great thesis, and maybe maybe even graduate with honors just because she danced and someone video taped it.

Now, onto the second part of my original post where most of you seem to have read with your eyes closed. I said, "What you do in your personal life IS and ALWAYS should be separate from you work life. They are two completely different things." They key word is should. I say should because unfortunately, I know it is not kept separate. This is called an opinion folks. This is how I feel about the situation. I think everyone has the right to as much privacy as they desire and as long as nothing they are doing effects their work, so be it. I never said this is fact. I am well aware companies sift through Facebook pages and Instagram accounts. It happens on the daily and there have been numerous articles and disputes on the subject. I hope you read this slower than my last post, and I hope this cleared some things up.

I didn't even see this post when I made my response yesterday. My goodness, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Holy condescending. You're not the only one with a degree on this board. At least, that's what I think that's what I paid for, haha.

Anyway, I rest my case. We're getting in this long debate about what exact kind of trouble a "twerk vine" can get you in. Why not just avoid it all to begin with and don't record it?

 

[CheerKatie08]

I will not even set up an interview with a candidate without checking all social media. Then during an interview, I ask questions regarding things they have posted, pictures, etc. if I get a red flag from anything. Once hired, I have suggested some remove questionable items. Might not be fair, but its my right to protect my schools image. If they put it for the world to see they must know I'm going to see it also. Even the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders release candidates for poor social media choices. Why shouldn't I be as selective choosing an adult to educate people's children? Teachers spend more time alone with kids than a lot of parents do each day. And If it has EVER been put on the Internet, I can almost always find it. Just because you delete it doesn't mean it's gone.

BINGO! Little known fact: It takes FIVE YEARS from deletion date before something is actually "gone forever" from private domain. People sometimes think I'm "uptight" for refusing to even have a picture taken of me with a beer bottle or original alcoholic container in my hand, especially because I'm 21. But when it comes down to it, if you're neck and neck with someone else in an interview, one picture of you out partying could give the other person an edge over you. Even if you're of age! Same goes for questionable dance moves and pictures in general, politics, foul language, etc etc etc.

And just because these athletes aren't looking for jobs yet, colleges do the same thing! These gyms are really just preparing their kids for the real world, when cheerleading has absolutely no meaning to somebody else.

 

[David]

Yes, a specific situation and I do agree that it was extreme...however, you said that potential employers don't check your social media presence, and I was giving an example of how what you post online can affect your employment opportunities.

No. I never said that. Go read my post again.

 

[David]

If you meant the key word to be "should" you should have capitalized that word instead of "is" and "always". Might have changed the emphasis of your point and helped people to understand what you were trying to say.

Or they could have read slower.