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Because what does referring to last year have to do with this years routine and the fact that NO ONE seems to get that walking clean behind around the floor is worth MORE than tumbling. Tumbling aint worth jack. If you had a squad full of standing doubles it might be worth the little thing that goes on the end of my shoelace. Lets even skip the fact their stunt is illegal and they can't seem to read a legality sheet (nor can anyone who was at the competition that gave them a bid).
Work ^^^The scorp comes from prep level, is never inverted, lands on stomach, then assisted rolls to two feet. what is your reasoning for legality. Also, this skill was competed at UCA college nationals and NCA college nationals in a UofL partner stunt and was not illegal in this case, where its only one person catching the scorp. so im just confused with where you are coming from. Also, we have competed at TWO major Varsity Brand companies, NCA and WSF, and nothing about it being illegal has been brought to our attention. And one of our coaches happens to be apart of the committee that writes the rules, (James Speed), and we have many skilled coaches that have been around the block, and were some of the people who were there in the beginning when cheerleading really blew up, Im pretty sure they know what they are doing.
Here is a picture of my stunt group in the scorp coming down.
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The scorp comes from prep level, is never inverted, lands on stomach, then assisted rolls to two feet. what is your reasoning for legality. Also, this skill was competed at UCA college nationals and NCA college nationals in a UofL partner stunt and was not illegal in this case, where its only one person catching the scorp. so im just confused with where you are coming from. Also, we have competed at TWO major Varsity Brand companies, NCA and WSF, and nothing about it being illegal has been brought to our attention. And one of our coaches happens to be apart of the committee that writes the rules, (James Speed), and we have many skilled coaches that have been around the block, and were some of the people who were there in the beginning when cheerleading really blew up, Im pretty sure they know what they are doing.
Here is a picture of my stunt group in the scorp coming down.
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The scorp comes from prep level, is never inverted, lands on stomach, then assisted rolls to two feet. what is your reasoning for legality. Also, this skill was competed at UCA college nationals and NCA college nationals in a UofL partner stunt and was not illegal in this case, where its only one person catching the scorp. so im just confused with where you are coming from. Also, we have competed at TWO major Varsity Brand companies, NCA and WSF, and nothing about it being illegal has been brought to our attention. And one of our coaches happens to be apart of the committee that writes the rules, (James Speed), and we have many skilled coaches that have been around the block, and were some of the people who were there in the beginning when cheerleading really blew up, Im pretty sure they know what they are doing.
Here is a picture of my stunt group in the scorp coming down.
I see where you are getting your reasoning then, but MY reasoning is simply NCA and WSF feel that it is not breaking the rules. And the other thing Im getting from this is that you are smarter than the UCA and NCA College Nationals judging panels, the NCA All Star judging panels, and the WSF judging panels. So it just seems apparent that you should probably judge every competition for the rest of the season since you know more than all of these Varsity Brand Companies.
I don't know why youre attacking him. He was pointing it out. I actually said the exact same thing to other people as well.
There have been numerous times when teams didn't get penalized until a major competition towards the end of the year.
I have an issue with people saying, just because it hasn't been caught yet doesn't make it illegal. It is illegal by any normal interpretation of the rules. There is no gray area on this stunt.
Truth: it is a release move
Truth: it is caught in a prone position
Definition from USASF (http://usasf.net/safety/cheerglossary/):
Prone Position
A face down, flat body position
Release Move
When the base(s) and top person become free of contact with each other and the top person comes back to the original set of bases. This interpretation applies to "stunts" only, not "pyramids."
There is NO WAY you can say that this stunt IS LEGAL
I have an issue with people saying, just because it hasn't been caught yet doesn't make it illegal. It is illegal by any normal interpretation of the rules. There is no gray area on this stunt.
Truth: it is a release move
Truth: it is caught in a prone position
Definition from USASF (http://usasf.net/safety/cheerglossary/):
Prone Position
A face down, flat body position
Release Move
When the base(s) and top person become free of contact with each other and the top person comes back to the original set of bases. This interpretation applies to "stunts" only, not "pyramids."
There is NO WAY you can say that this stunt IS LEGAL
Is this the loophole? That it's not a flat (albeit facedown) body position?
(I thought it was illegal the moment I saw it and have been trying to figure out why on earth it hadn't been called!)
fair enough... thought it was a long shot! :-)Nah, her body makes a flatish line. Otherwise you could fall in a lib, or stretch, in a slight arch...
fair enough... thought it was a long shot! :)