All-Star Allstar Resort/block Party

[Mom Jeans]

ummm pot laced edibles anyone? yup is as stupid does.

 

[King]

It is about smart management. Sanctioning a party that kids can use as a vehicle to drink is not the smartest thing. If the kids want to find a way on their own to go drink then so be it.

I don't care about stopping the kids individually, but making sure there is no sanctioned easy access event to allow it.

 

[cheerKT]

It is about smart management. Sanctioning a party that kids can use as a vehicle to drink is not the smartest thing. If the kids want to find a way on their own to go drink then so be it.

I don't care about stopping the kids individually, but making sure there is no sanctioned easy access event to allow it.

The event being discussed wasn't a sanctioned party. It wasn't put on by anyone. Just a bunch of kids hanging out. All the kids there drank on their own and wandered out to the pool/football field area and hung out there. Some continued to drink out there. A bit of a "make your own party" type situation.

I personally think it should have been shut down before it reached that point. I headed out there around midnight and security guards were standing around the pool just watching. Hindsight is 20/20, and they probably had no idea how crazy it would get, but I would have though a HUGE conglomeration of overly drunk teens would have been dispersed as soon as they started getting too loud. It is a RESORT after all.

 

[King]

The event being discussed wasn't a sanctioned party. It wasn't put on by anyone. Just a bunch of kids hanging out. All the kids there drank on their own and wandered out to the pool/football field area and hung out there. Some continued to drink out there. A bit of a "make your own party" type situation.

I personally think it should have been shut down before it reached that point. I headed out there around midnight and security guards were standing around the pool just watching. Hindsight is 20/20, and they probably had no idea how crazy it would get, but I would have though a HUGE conglomeration of overly drunk teens would have been dispersed as soon as they started getting too loud. It is a RESORT after all.

The main congregation points should have some extra security.

 

[cheerKT]

The main congregation points should have some extra security.

I agree. Especially now knowing that this WILL happen again next year. I'm sure of it. Even if the official Block Party is canceled kids are still going to congregate out there next year. Break it up and send them away from that area before it gets to that point.

 

[5-6-7-8]

If USASF enforced the rules they made everyone sign, this would be less of an issue (or at least out in public.) What a lesson that would be for one kid to learn...because you got caught drinking underage, you just prevented your WHOLE gym from attending Worlds next year.

And I get that they want all athletes to have this party together, why is there an event that both under and legal age athletes can attend? Have 2 parties if you need to (drinking age, under drinking age.) Though it seems that the actual event wasn't the real issue...sounds like it was the spontaneous events happening after that were the issue.

 

[cheerne2011]

was this really on the news? if so someone put up the link! or a video of it

 

[King]

I agree. Especially now knowing that this WILL happen again next year. I'm sure of it. Even if the official Block Party is canceled kids are still going to congregate out there next year. Break it up and send them away from that area before it gets to that point.

Everyone thinks it is about 'stopping' all the kids from drinking. That will never happen, some will find ways. But you don't give them large public areas and easy access. You would be surprised how much that would cut it all down. That was how they stopped Freaknik in Atlanta. They couldn't stop people from coming and visiting and partying. But they did stop the ability to stop your cars on the highway and in the public streets (and that pretty much ended Freaknick in two years).

Two years of no easy public place and it will no longer be an issue.

 

[pctmom]

I am enjoying you tremendously this evening. I'm just going to follow you around here, shimmying, OK?

And I'm sure everyone is going to reply that gyms like CA and Rays can have zero tolerance policies because they're so awesome that no one would risk it, but some small gym couldn't afford to kick out the talented kids. I often wonder when people say stuff like this - does it ever occur to anyone that CA and Rays are the huge powerhouses they are BECAUSE they have zero tolerance for BS in their programs?

I'm just a little Canadian program that kicked a kid with a double off her team for bad behaviour. He came back and has been an example of what is right and good ever since.

 

[ztaprincess]

@ztaprincess's name tells me she's a Zeta Tau Alpha and her risk management chair should be very proud of her ... Just the sorority girl in me :)

And to think so many people assume all sorority/fraternity people do is get sloppy drunk and not care. We actually know that there is a time and a place to get a little crazy, Disney is not one of them.

Your story reminded me: when our oldest was 2 1/2, DH and I were on the porch with her. We were talking about a commerical where a dog brings his master a beer from the refridgerator and hubby turns to our daughter and says "bring me a beer". Well, she immediately goes running back into the house and we are looking at each other wondering what she is doing when she comes running back out and hands him her big white teddy bear that was as big as she was. (This may be a case of the parents thinking this is ever so much cuter and more clever than anyone else does.:p)

Oh this makes me laugh because just yesterday I saw something similar to this happen only the little girl really brought her daddy the beer. I was at the pool and there are always parents with their children up there drinking (while their small children swim, really smart). Well the dad was in the pool playing around and this little girl, who was probably 3 or 4 grabs her dad's beer and run towards the pool screaming "here daddy don't forget your beer". I had the the biggest awkward mixed with shocked cow look on my face. Why does a 3/4 year old know what a beer is?

On Sunday night where are all of these coaches while this is happening? Doesn't the USASF hold a Coaches Party? if they do then I think that needs to be canceled because those coaches need to be back at the resort with the athletes they are in charge of. If not then parents need to be appointed as chaperones while the coaches are away.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Everyone thinks it is about 'stopping' all the kids from drinking. That will never happen, some will find ways. But you don't give them large public areas and easy access. You would be surprised how much that would cut it all down. That was how they stopped Freaknik in Atlanta. They couldn't stop people from coming and visiting and partying. But they did stop the ability to stop your cars on the highway and in the public streets (and that pretty much ended Freaknick in two years).

Two years of no easy public place and it will no longer be an issue.

chyeeaaa69 see King's post ^^^

It's not about stopping it. It's about making it so easy! Just giving unlimited to large public areas with little to no adults or security??? Well, an idiot could have predicted this.

And I know you think posting it on FierceBoard isn't helping, but I promise you more than one parent (me included) has seen this. And parents actually DO read things and re-think their plans. I've already informed my cp (who will be 18 when we go next year) that she most certainly gosh-darned-well will NOT be running around Disney World drunk (and I'm paying and I'm still her mom regardless of how old she is, so yes, she does have to do what I say). Do I think we can stop teenagers from drinking by posting on here? Obviously not. Do I think a few more moms and coaches might be aware of what's really going on from reading this? Yep. I mean in this thread alone I've already seen people saying "I believe you, I just had no idea stuff like this was going on" and "I didn't know where she was..." Hopefully some of THOSE people will read this and say "Oh...maybe the Mouse isn't such a good babysitter after 10PM. Maybe I should keep her a little closer to me"

cheermommaRN I guess for kids of age it's ok (I can't say I've never laughed at a drunken Facebook post!:D) . However I don't ever think it's funny to embarrass your gym like that but to each his own. But the majority of these people were NOT of age. Plenty of 16 year olds in that mess.

I guess I don't understand why you were saying they would lose the event? I agreed they weren't going to throw us out of Disney. All I (and pretty much everyone on here) said was Disney should enforce the rules (and the law) and stop allowing this - enforcing a no underage drinking policy is not going to make USASF take the event elsewhere, so Disney isn't going to lose any money. And you mentioned USASF wasn't going to risk losing money, and I didn't understand. They have it right in their contract that you can be banned for the following year if you're caught drinking underage. This doesn't sound like it would have been overly difficult to "catch" that. All I was saying was USASF is in no danger of losing any money, so I'm not sure why you mentioned them in your earlier post. Because if they suddenly start enforcing this and banning gyms who get caught up in it, it won't stop people from coming to Worlds, it'll stop people from allowing members of their gym to be falling down drunk all over Disney.

Really long post just to say that I don't understand the connection between enforcing underage drinking rules and money. :)

 

[CCCBeBad]

And to think so many people assume all sorority/fraternity people do is get sloppy drunk and not care. We actually know that there is a time and a place to get a little crazy, Disney is not one of them.


Oh this makes me laugh because just yesterday I saw something similar to this happen only the little girl really brought her daddy the beer. I was at the pool and there are always parents with their children up there drinking (while their small children swim, really smart). Well the dad was in the pool playing around and this little girl, who was probably 3 or 4 grabs her dad's beer and run towards the pool screaming "here daddy don't forget your beer". I had the the biggest awkward mixed with shocked cow look on my face. Why does a 3/4 year old know what a beer is?

On Sunday night where are all of these coaches while this is happening? Doesn't the USASF hold a Coaches Party? if they do then I think that needs to be canceled because those coaches need to be back at the resort with the athletes they are in charge of. If not then parents need to be appointed as chaperones while the coaches are away.

I love you right now for bringing the COACHES PARTY up!! Its the final day of worlds, if I was there you better know my team and I with parents would have taken the team out to dinner as it is a day of celebration as its the last comp of the year! Not getting dressed up like Halloween so I can go get drunk with all the other coaches around the World..... and YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT GOES ON AT THE COACHES PARTY!

The USASF could scratch the party and instead hold a TUMBLE OFF kinda like what CheerSport does, but BETTER! Cause its not before the comp so the thought of one of your athletes getting hurt before the comp trying to throw something crazy is still on your mind as a coach but its not going to destroy your chances for the weekend (if that makes sense).

I was a crazy and VERY immature party kid in high school, baseball player, very popular, etc... just like most of these talented "cheer celebrities" so I do blame them... but honestly I hold the USASF responsible! You portray our industry leaders as big party animals, coaches conference in Vegas, Party in Daytona after finals, Coaches party at Worlds, ETC!!! And you expect our cheerleaders to be responsible! Its starts with you (USASF) but I doubt much will change.....

Ok I am done with my rant... its lunch time for me! But I will be back cause I have more!

 

[Ashley]

I'm newly 21 and I got carded everywhere I went down there. I've always known Disney was strict on IDs. My friend got lectured for buying 2 drinks at a drink stand in Downtown Disney in 2010 when I was standing near him. The drink was for someone else who wasn't there yet and she was afraid he was going to give it to me. She was DETERMINED that he was buying a drink for me since I was underage and said that if she saw him give it to me he would be escorted off the property. It was pretty excessive.

So I call BS on the bar not IDing people. The bar was closed when most of this went down anyway. Most of the kids had their own alcohol.

They absolutely 100% were not checking ids. At least consistently. I'm 24 and those of us on our open teams had a few drinks by the pool a few afternoons when we had free time. We were all very rarely carded and I know a few underage athletes who were buying drinks without issues. This was at the resort. I was carded maybe 25% of the time, and that's probably a high estimate.

Also at Epcot, I was going to share a margarita with a teammate and I was standing behind her while she was ordering and asking me what kind I wanted, if I wanted salt, etc. The Disney employee didn't even bat an eye even though from the sound of the conversation she could have been buying me a drink.

No one's exaggerating when they say Disney wasn't enforcing it.

 

[DJ]

As to getting kicked out of Disney, to put the numbers in perspective the staff at WWoS was talking to us Sunday AM & said that on Saturday alone they had around 30,000 people in & out of the complex. A busy day for them is typically 15,000. So the $$$$$$ is enough to say they won't be kicking us off property.

 

[mstealtoyou]

So after years and years of being at Worlds and hearing all the stories of what goes on at the Allstar Resort I was diligent about knowing where and with whom my 12 year old was at all times over the course of the weekend. When she wasn't with her team (adult in charge) she was with a group of like age kids with parents I trust. After Coed awards she stayed to watch the rest of the competition from the Fierceboard section with her sister (18 years old) and Angelica and Donovan. All kids I trust!! After the last division competed her sister got on the bus with her and made sure she got back to the room safely where she asked if she could go to the block party. I sent out a few texts to my Mom friends and found none that were actually going with their kids to the party and decided in my head No Baby you can't go. While trying to figure out how to word the explanation as to why she wasn't going to be able to go she says..........."I changed my mind. I'm tired, I just want to eat and swim and go to bed" Me in my head........."THANK YOU JESUS" So she changed into a bathing suit......we headed to the pool area. It took me 2 trips into the building to refill our cups to figure out what was going on. I'm slow sometimes. LMAO At that point we moved where we were sitting to an area with tables with umbrella's but separated by a hedge from the place where everyone seemed to be congregating. After about 30 minutes she wanted to head back to the room so we did and she was well asleep before the helicopter's showed up. Apparently the Block Party would have been a safer option for her.......WHO KNEW? HAHAHAHA

I will say this. I never ventured up to the football field Sun night so I had no idea what was happening there until after it was over. I slept on the floor all weekend in a girls room as did my hubby who slept on the floor all weekend in a boys room. Any of the CEA kids that made the mistake of coming back to the bldg before curfew found themselves on lockdown. We wouldn't let them go back out and sent them to their rooms. Disney security came down the hall an hour later telling us to get out of the hallways. We said, we're chaperone's and we're an hour ahead of you. Most of our kids are already in. Notice I said most not all. LOL

I wish I could say the same about the group of parents that spent the weekend drinking right under our bldg from Thursday night until way past curfew on Sunday night with the 2 women who's voices penetrated the walls of the room. You were obnoxious! But I never saw 1 obnoxious kid from your program! Odd huh?