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Yes we do have a junior 2 team at one of our other gyms, however I think it is a large Jr 2.Does one of your gyms have a small junior 2?
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Yes we do have a junior 2 team at one of our other gyms, however I think it is a large Jr 2.Does one of your gyms have a small junior 2?
This was not your typical crossover situation, which is made apparent earlier in the thread. The statement was made that a special tryout was held, there are more than a handful of level 3,4 and at least one level 5 cheerleader on this team. It was also stated that this was done solely "for the experience" of NCA.For the record again I'll state the facts...We have Level 2, 3 & 4 kids on that team.....They are so excited about going to Dallas and experiencing NCA like our Chili Peppers and Beatles kids...It's been such a great move for us because now the whole gym is talking about NCA. Now we have younger teams and athletes asking about NCA. We've never flown to a competition in the 5 years at Rockstar. This is our first competition EVER that we've flown to. Hopefully next year all our teams will want to compete at NCA! Oh, and I like you to Kyle lol
If those who coach a Level 2 or 3 team don't think this discussion is relevant, then yes, we should just drop it.I am intrigued by the registration and athlete registration conversation, but please take it to a new thread. This thread was meant for amazing level 2 teams, so that is what I am looking for when I open it.
The recent conversation is completely valid, but just not relevant to this thread anymore.
Isn't there some rule that you must compete as a team for X amount of time before NCA....and our Jr Black is very good and made up of real level 2 athletes...:chestbump:Sorry, you go it.
Congrats on your win - good luck in Dallas.
Isn't there some rule that you must compete as a team for X amount of time before NCA....and our Jr Black is very good and made up of real level 2 athletes...:chestbump:
wow..."tough rule"...rolling eyes...:)No amount of time, just one competition.
I concur. I don't coach level 2, but since this VERY publicly affected these amazing level 2 teams I love, I say have at it! Many people skip over the more 'deep-thought' posts for the fluffy ones, and this is a way for more people to read, unfortunately.If those who coach a Level 2 or 3 team don't think this discussion is relevant, then yes, we should just drop it.
But before you make that decision, please consider how and whether what it takes to be an "amazing" level 2 team may change (and how that impacts your current Level 2 teams) now that this very legal loophole has been defined and publicized.
Isn't there some rule that you must compete as a team for X amount of time before NCA....and our Jr Black is very good and made up of real level 2 athletes...:chestbump:
I actually noted this same point in thinking through this, but didn't raise it at that time because it would have appeared to have been directed at Rockstar. However, now that we are looking for a solution for everyone, this point definitely comes into play.I concur. I don't coach level 2, but since this VERY publicly affected these amazing level 2 teams I love, I say have at it! Many people skip over the more 'deep-thought' posts for the fluffy ones, and this is a way for more people to read, unfortunately.
Now I watched Rockstar's routine (sorry, I'm using you as my example. But you put it out there for better or worse. And I actually think it's both- better for this discussion to have an actual concrete example, worse for the kids affected who lost to this situation and now I have a slightly bitter taste in my mouth that isn't morning breath). I knew the situation, but even if I didn't, my first thought was 'They have REALLY great technique.' One girl had some SERIOUS speed to her BHS. If I didn't know the situation, then came on here to see that this team was made up of athletes with various higher-level skills, I'd be majorly confused and upset. I know CEA uses crossovers extensively, but from what I've always seen, it's usually the same level, just different age groups (youth 5 to junior 5, junior 5 to senior 5, etc). My problem is there was, publicly, an entire team created of athletes who comprised of 2-5 skills, all pushed together on the lowest level of all the kids chosen. Why not choose level 3? It will forever be the question people think of when they see that routine. It also effectively, in my mind, puts to rest the notion that 'Well, everybody is competing the same level skills so it's all the same.' Well- as long as there's an execution component on the score sheet, it WON'T be all the same. In terms of 'filling out' team size- didn't some team at Cheersport this weekend place very well with only 12 girls (I believe top 4?)
No it wasn't wrong. None of us have the right to judge an individual's decision for personal reasons. But the suggested rule of '2/3 true level' means you would have to have an awful lot of athletes at one program willing to publicly declare their level (via USASF) to be below what it is to have that be a major factor. I just don't see that happening. Pride is in play here.what about the girl with level 4-5 skills that chooses to be on senior 2 with her friends instead of senior 4/5?
I'm friends with a girl who chose to do this last season. Was that wrong of her?