Nca Nationals 2021

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  1. Knowcheering

    Knowcheering Somewhere... some one.... is giving me a slow clap

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    I wonder how/if this problem can be solved so that routines can actually be enjoyed aside from Live Broadcasts. Wouldn't it benefit music producers if more people actually heard their work and were like, "I love so-and-so team's music, let's use that producer for our own routine"? What if the producer's name appeared somewhere on the Varsity videos to give credit to them? I don't see how it benefits anyone to have everyone watching competitions as if we are deaf. What's the point of producing music if you don't want anyone to hear it? And more people would actually watch VarsityTV if there was sound. It's sad they've been unable to work together to come up with a solution.

    I'm also curious about VarsityTV's sudden refusal to make their routine videos free after 5 days, as they had promised. I don't know if this is on purpose or just forgetfulness on their part, but videos from Feb 20-21 are still behind a paywall even though all the previous weeks' competitions can be viewed. I'm surprised parents trying to watch their kids from that week haven't complained and gotten this fixed yet (or maybe they have and it's fallen on deaf ears). Considering that ads play before viewing routines, you would think VarsityTV would want more people to actually watch their videos. They've stated that the NCA Nationals videos will be available for free on March 11, and let's see if they keep their word. There's something about Flo that just feels off.

    The cheerleading fandom is never going to grow much further than the moms of the competitors and former/current cheerleaders if they continue to make it this inaccessible and difficult to watch. Compare this to a sport like gymnastics that has a ton of fans who have never put on a leotard. And even that sport unfortunately has recently partnered with Flo, much to the dismay of fans. But I've yet to see a gymnastics event where the floor music was on mute.
     
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  2. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    ^ It's mind-boggling!

    My favorite part of this is where Varsity forces gyms to take down videos on their own gym channels.

    Of their own teams.

    With routines they choreographed.

    Wild.

    Literally the only things gyms can post are routines from showcases and such.
     
  3. CLynn

    CLynn When all else fails.... I shimmy

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    Right but do we know if
    So at live competitions Varsity is the video producer vs Cheermatch the gym is and they have copyright permission. I wonder if most music producers object to giving Varsity copyright permission, they want to charge them too much for the rights or if gyms have tried to add music rights permission to third party video producers as part of the overall contract and how much extra music producers want for that? It is just such a negative experience watching without the sound for me. I'm probably being naive about all the others issues involved but most of the music is available on sound cloud for free anyway so I would think finding an agreement to include the music with the video is possible.
     
  4. UCFKnights07

    UCFKnights07 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    ... im curious as to why certain channels dont have their videos taken down, JTV from the looks of it keeps music in all his videos from all the cea competitions... I know the whole andy simon saga, where he fought hard to keep his videos w/ music.
     
  5. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    I have no idea. I do know that his most recent Worlds videos (like 2019) couldn't have full routines/music (he got snippets and did interviews) but other than that yes, they are basically comp videos.
     
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    california cheer mom Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    I am so tired of waiting for NCA awards. That is all.
     
  7. cac4life

    cac4life Last Pass... on International Open 1

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    I wish i could emphasize this message like u can in texting...but i can't so here is my post saying it.
     
  8. Keep_Believing

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    I am already starting to hear NCA result spoilers. Telling myself they could easily be false.
     
  9. cheermomforever

    cheermomforever Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    scores should of never been released.....
     
  10. CLynn

    CLynn When all else fails.... I shimmy

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    I guess there had to be some way for programs to review score sheet/challenge deductions etc. Though I am expecting many more deduction free routines compared with live events or even Cheermatch...
     
  11. cheermomforever

    cheermomforever Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    But days before and say “don’t share”....lol. Should of been today maybe. I still feel with it being one of most “prestigious” comps it should of been one and done for videoing like other comps are doing.....
     
  12. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    I have seen a lot of Worlds teams posting "we hit zero!" Like at least an entire 90% of an entire division.

    Going to be interesting.
     
  13. CLynn

    CLynn When all else fails.... I shimmy

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    Oh I 100% agree. It is a joke. I keep saying it but Cheermatch is far, far superior in this regard. A shame NCA could not have negotiated to use the technology for ONE event, or even if they actually worked together to produce it? Would have been another amazing opportunity for CM to showcase their platform but I guess with the patent still pending that wasn't an option??

    Yup. Sure there are certain practical considerations with gym space etc but I know from our program every team "hit". Can't say the same about the one cheermatch we did...
     
  14. Knowcheering

    Knowcheering Somewhere... some one.... is giving me a slow clap

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    It makes sense to release scores in a timely fashion after video submission (like any sport would), but with the long delay for awards, yeah I agree the scores went out too soon. Expecting hundreds of kids/coaches on social media to "keep a secret" for over a week especially when they're all anxious about the results (especially since it's NCA and a big deal) is far-fetched. I've seen some "I know the results and I'm not telling you!" silliness, and people posting fake scoresheets that some think are real. I'm wondering what exactly the awards ceremony entails that made it necessary to push it back a week.
     
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