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[njallday]

it's unfortunate that alcohol and overdose are not used together when someone dies from alcohol (cdc report ~300 alcohol overdose deaths per year). the words excessive use or poisoning are usually used. it's even more unfortunate when people say drugs and alcohol as if alcohol is not a drug. alcohol is a drug. using and seems to imply that it is not. in fact, a simple look in a nueropharmacology text will show that alcohol is one of the hardest recreational drugs there is with respects to potential for addiction, fighting addiction and intoxication/impairment.



what do you mean by: it may be more of an education matter?



the only reason disney would step in to curb drugs on their property would *only* be if someone was selling acid or baggies of substance with a mickey mouse or other character logo on it. they would jail you not for selling/having drugs, but for copy-write infringement.

i am aware that alcohol overdose is a thing and i am not disputing that alcohol is a drug or that one can overdose from it... i was speaking solely from a media point of view and the verbiage used. when they say investigating an overdose the outcome is rarely alcohol alone.

 

[Cheer Dad]

i am aware that alcohol overdose is a thing and i am not disputing that alcohol is a drug or that one can overdose from it... i was speaking solely from a media point of view and the verbiage used. when they say investigating an overdose the outcome is rarely alcohol alone.

Agreed.


"What, you don't even go here!"

 

[quitthedrama]

To be realistic, one could try a drug for the first time and end up overdosing.


When I cheered in college we were never even threatened with drug test (however we were threatened with fat testing...priorities). I remember being at NCA college nationals and being at a loss for words at all of the partying from athletes....especially the ones from top performing teams. It was literally "too much turn up" in every way imaginable.

I think colleges should drug test all athletes, every month. There needs to be counseling and assistance with treatment for those that turn up positive.







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Often times the "fat testing" leads to the drug use. Drug use and drug testing is absolutely something colleges need to start monitoring. Parents need to straight talk with their kids as well (note to self). It honestly can happen to anyone and often the kids you would least expect. It is so scary and heartbreaking.

Proud supporter of the IBFC since 1997

 

[TitanCoach]

I teach at a high school in Canada. We are not allowed to have random drug dog searches any more as the Supreme Court of Canada decided it infringed on basic rights. If we suspect that students have drugs/alcohol at school, our administration deals with the issue at hand. They can search lockers, by hand, if they have just cause.
When I take my cheer team away to a competition, I personally search their bags...all of their bags...to ensure there are no illegal substances. If found they are immediately removed from the team, sent to administration for suspension/expulsion, and/or referred to police for charges. If for some unknown reason, I miss the item and it is they found while we are away or if they were to obtain illegal substances while we are away, the person is immediately removed from the team, their parents are called to come and get them...I don't care how far away we are...and the administration of the school is notified so that they can deal with it with the student upon returning to school. All of my girls and their parents are well aware of the rules in place before we go to any competitions. If a parent does not agree with the bag checks, the student does not come with us!

In regard to "punishment" for alcohol and drug related issues at school, I have found over my 20+years teaching that our issues have moved from alcohol at dances, occasion pot use outside during breaks and have moved to drug use and alcohol consumption during the school day IN the school and at sporting events by spectators. It also has moved to lines of cocaine at parties...in 9th and 10th grade and drug deals going on inside the school during the school day...usually the dealers are "popular" kids that other staff wouldn't think would have anything to do with drugs...athletes...honour roll students, etc. Frequently students who are caught participating in usage at school are suspended for one day and that's all :( Parents frequently excuse the behaviour as "they were just taking the fall for a friend"

 

[njallday]

Often times the "fat testing" leads to the drug use. Drug use and drug testing is absolutely something colleges need to start monitoring. Parents need to straight talk with their kids as well (note to self). It honestly can happen to anyone and often the kids you would least expect. It is so scary and heartbreaking.

Proud supporter of the IBFC since 1997

your reminder to yourself reminded me of this: Heroin Epidemic: A Mother's Plea To Parents

it circulated around my Facebook friends for a while, and worth a read by everyone. drug addiction can happen to ANYONE.
with some of these high level athletes, you may get prescribed pain killers for an injury. you depend on it, and when it stops working you need something stronger. it happens quick and before you know it you've fallen down the rabbit hole with no way out. i am not implying this is what happened to this beautiful girl, but it is a very real problem.

 

[Official OWECheer]

Often times the "fat testing" leads to the drug use. Drug use and drug testing is absolutely something colleges need to start monitoring. Parents need to straight talk with their kids as well (note to self). It honestly can happen to anyone and often the kids you would least expect. It is so scary and heartbreaking.

Proud supporter of the IBFC since 1997

I seriously hope that "fat testing" is a thing of the past.

 

[quitthedrama]

your reminder to yourself reminded me of this: Heroin Epidemic: A Mother's Plea To Parents

it circulated around my Facebook friends for a while, and worth a read by everyone. drug addiction can happen to ANYONE.
with some of these high level athletes, you may get prescribed pain killers for an injury. you depend on it, and when it stops working you need something stronger. it happens quick and before you know it you've fallen down the rabbit hole with no way out. i am not implying this is what happened to this beautiful girl, but it is a very real problem.

Wow. That was a tough read. It will be an in depth discussion at our house. Thank you for sharing.

Proud supporter of the IBFC since 1997

 

[kristenthegreat]

Never even smoked a cigarette in my life, so yeah :D.

A very good friend of mine did a long stint in rehab and various institutions. If you knew her in HS, you'd NEVER imagine she'd end up there: smart, funny, well-liked, etc. She ended up losing one friend to mysterious circumstances (he burned to death in his car), and another committed suicide after the girl confessed she was in love with my friend (also a girl). She was already falling into a party group (mostly cigs, pills, alcohol and weed). Sometime tragedy takes a grip on a tortured soul. The kids dealing (pot) in my HS (I went to a small, Catholic private school) were the doofy smart kids: they did have intelligence but still tended to get into stupid situations. Popular, generally nice, etc. I've had friends do molly, acid, pot (lots of pot in NYC), shrooms. Lots of the psychedelics now- the whole EDM/dayglow rave scene. Now THAT is a huge issue up here: EDM concerts where people are overdosing on 'Molly' that's actually laced with things like heroin, coke, etc. 2 kids died last spring.

We actually had a guy on bath salts come running into my restaurant, half naked screaming and swinging a pipe. Took 5 of our strongest guys to hold him down til the cops came. It is NOT a good look..those people are dangerous.

 

[CheerBank]

your reminder to yourself reminded me of this: Heroin Epidemic: A Mother's Plea To Parents

it circulated around my Facebook friends for a while, and worth a read by everyone. drug addiction can happen to ANYONE.
with some of these high level athletes, you may get prescribed pain killers for an injury. you depend on it, and when it stops working you need something stronger. it happens quick and before you know it you've fallen down the rabbit hole with no way out. i am not implying this is what happened to this beautiful girl, but it is a very real problem.

I remember reading this on Facebook when it first was published. Heroin has unfortunately been a big problem in some Long Island areas for a good few years now. It's much cheaper and easier to for kids to get than prescription pills, and apparently now comes in pill form as well.


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[Cheer Dad]

And to make it worse, drugs like heroin leave your system much quicker than weed does if you went on a bender Friday night you could pass a drug test on Thursday. There are continuing factors like how much and how long.


"What flavor of cool-aid are you serving today, cult?

 

[King]

I seriously hope that "fat testing" is a thing of the past.

Fat testing is not a bad thing, but it can easily be misused. Kids coming into college have very little idea how to manage themselves completely, and that includes eating. They have never had to manage their lives before and usually gain the freshman 15 because they have no idea how to moderate all these new ways to consume calories. The same thing can happen that instead of eating too much an athlete can try and take control and eat too little. We are not allowed to measure weight at my school and I think it is a disservice to our program. An athlete should come in and have expectations to stay within 5 pounds of their tryout weight. We do have a nutritionist on staff that is allowed to assist in this.

BTW most college sports played at a high level they measure and watch their weight. It isn't just cheer.

 

[Cheer Dad]

Is there a purpose for fat testing beyond bmi or body far %?


"What flavor of cool-aid are you serving today, cult?

 

[King]

Is there a purpose for fat testing beyond bmi or body far %?


"What flavor of cool-aid are you serving today, cult?

What do you mean?

 

[Official OWECheer]

Is there a purpose for fat testing beyond bmi or body far %?


"What flavor of cool-aid are you serving today, cult?

*kool-aid :p

 

[Cheer Dad]

What do you mean?

The only fat testing I am aware of if for determining body fat percentage but unless I am just confused reading some of these posts it may also be used for drug testing or something else. Am I just wrong?


"What flavor of cool-aid are you serving today, cult?