All-Star Themed Practice Controversy

[Pebbles49]

I'm probably not going to have any friends after this and I'm not being rude or but I'm trying to understand where y'all are coming from. Those stories are horrendous. I understand why everyone is skeptical of us white people and they think we are out to get others. There is bad apples everywhere. In every color.

I would understand you saying back then y'all had to work 5X harder but how do you have to work 5X harder then others today? You seem to have had a pretty good upbringing. You seem really intelligent. I wouldn't think you had to work any harder then a white person with a similar upbringing? I'm pretty sure we are all equal.

I'm really just asking because I don't understand so I do apologize in advance for how ignorant I must come across?

Kris10boo, I will try to answer your question best that I can... I am not skeptical of White people because I think most Blacks understand and learned how to judge people based on their character, if we do anything otherwise, makes us hypocrites...Many Blacks who grew up in a Middle class household were always told we need to work harder at everything and often times even after working hard, it is not good enough. The problem is, the horrendous acts that occurred, unfortunately, happened less than 40 or 50 years ago, still really fresh in our US history. I was 5, when I witnessed the KKK come down my street and intimidate my neighbors and forced us fear for our lives and leave town, I am now 50. These are not horrendous acts that I read from a book and learned about in school, no this is ingrained in my psyche. I never want to discount or minimize anyone history, but when you compare other ethnicity in the US, the severity of the prejudice, discrimination and separation is not the same.
The people who came through Ellis Island, where given a chance to make a life for themselves and chose to come here, I don't believe anybody came here on a slave ship in chains, here not of free will and treated lowered than chattel. Many who were able to learn the language and educated were able to assimilate into American Melting Pot... However, for Blacks it was not easy because no matter how educated we got, due to our skin tones it is hard to assimilate into that Melting Pot... Even the Asians after a time of being discriminated and someone even mention the concentration camps and having their homes and land taken from them during War, after the War these Asians were given reparations for the wrong done to them... Again, no group of people have suffered being stripped totally of cultural, language, religion, family and name, but Blacks are told to fix it ourselves...

 

[TheVipersMom]

Kris10boo, I will try to answer your question best that I can... I am not skeptical of White people because I think most Blacks understand and learned how to judge people based on their character, if we do anything otherwise, makes us hypocrites...ManyBlacks who grew up in a Middle class household were always told we need to work harder at everything and often times even after working hard it is no good enough. The problem is, the horrendous acts that occurred, unfortunately, happened less than 40 or 50 years ago, still really early in the US history. I was 5, when I witnessed the KKK come down my street and intimidate my neighbors and force us fear for our lives and leave town, I am now 50. These are not horrendous acts that I read from a book and learned about in school, no this is ingrained in my psyche. I never want to discount or minimize anyone history, but when you compare other ethnicity in the US, the severity of the prejudice, discrimination and separation is not the same.
The people who came through Ellis Island, where given a chance to make a life for themselves and many who were able to learn the language and educated were able to assimilate into American Melting Pot... However, for Blacks it was not easy because no matter how educated we got, due to our skin tones it is hard to assimilate into that Melting Pot... Even the Asians after a time of being discriminated and someone even mention the concentration camps and having their homes and land taken from them during War, after the War these Asians were given reparations for the wrong done to them... Again, no group of people have suffered being stripped totally of cultural, language, religion, family and name but Blacks...

Well thanks for responding since I was not worthy enough of a response from the person who made the statement. It must be because I'm lower class or not as educated as her. So I didn't expect one anyways.

Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I haven't dealt with any of that so I was just trying to understand myself and your reply did help. Thank you very much.

 

[ryann3794]

Since I did have a good upbringing and since I am very intelligent, I'm just going to ignore this and walk away.

I think @Kris10boo was legitemetly asking and wanted a real answer. She wasn't just making a statement, she's really trying to understand the other side..

 

[ErinS]

Well thanks for responding since I was not worthy enough of a response from the person who made the statement. It must be because I'm lower class or not as educated as her. So I didn't expect one anyways.

Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I haven't dealt with any of that so I was just trying to understand myself and your reply did help. Thank you very much.

How rude and disgusting of you.

I said in my initial post that my POV on this matter is largely shaped because I am both black and from the south. I also said that I was aware that people would not get my POV since for the most part we can all agree that white privilege exists and consequently it is extremely difficult to explain certain things without offending . Therefore you should have the decency to respect my wish to not further discuss the matter.

I don't know what your class is, I don't know what your education is, nor do I care, (nor do you know mine, although you seem to think that you do), but don't you dare project whatever feelings of inferiority that you may or may not have about yourself upon me

Disgusting.

 

[TheVipersMom]

How rude and disgusting of you.

I said in my initial post that my POV on this matter is largely shaped because I am both black and from the south. I also said that I was aware that people would not get my POV since for the most part we can all agree that white privilege exists and consequently it is extremely difficult to explain certain things without offending . Therefore you should have the decency to respect my wish to not further discuss the matter.

I don't know what your class is, I don't know what your education is, nor do I care, (nor do you know mine, although you seem to think they you do), but don't you dare project whatever feelings of inferiority that you may or may not have about yourself upon me

Disgusting.

You have brought up your education more then once.

You are always the first person to put everyone down since you are so educated like how dare we not know that SC looks like a really odd piece of pie that doesn't look like a piece of pie at all but whatever. I was genuinely asking you a question. You did not not owe me a response but funny how I knew you wouldn't give me one but hey I got one now!:) It's ok you can walk away.

 

[Pebbles49]

Well thanks for responding since I was not worthy enough of a response from the person who made the statement. It must be because I'm lower class or not as educated as her. So I didn't expect one anyways.

Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I haven't dealt with any of that so I was just trying to understand myself and your reply did help. Thank you very much.

Not to speak for anyone, but there are wounds that some of us are not ready to discuss... Give HeresaThought her moment and decision to walk away from a heated discussion... Kris10boo, don't take it personal if someone is not ready to open their heart to this type of dialogue... Hey, earlier today before this post, I was a happy-go-lucky Pebbles, fixing myself some 'Fruity Pebbles'...hahaha and I needed to take a moment to walk away from this discussion because I was getting heated... I've lived with my pain for 45 years, and nobody did not get killed... Looking at HeresaThought, I believe I am a lot older than her, so she may need more time to come to terms with this sad chapter in our history.

PS: ..HeresaThought take your time, I understand!

 

[ErinS]

You have brought up your education more then once.

You are always the first person to put everyone down since you are so educated like how dare we not know that SC looks like a really odd piece of pie that doesn't look like a piece of pie at all but whatever. I was genuinely asking you a question. You did not not owe me a response but funny how I knew you wouldn't give me one but hey I got one now!:) It's ok you can walk away.

You've admitted enough about yourself for me to know it's not worth my effort to go back and forth with you.

Don't let your own insecurities cause you to be such a prick to others.

Best wishes!

 

[TheVipersMom]

You've admitted enough about yourself for me to know it's not worth my effort to go back and forth with you.

Don't let your own insecurities cause you to be such a prick to others.

Best wishes!

Thank you! You too!!:)

 

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[Eyes On The Prize]

On Disney "whitewashing" - There are fairy tales in every culture, we've just chosen to ignore most of them. But what people need to realize is that the "whitewashing" happened during a time when that was the norm. It was fine to be openly racist. They wouldn't have profited as much from a movie about a young black princess as a white one. Does that make it right? No, but why be mad at the Disney of today. They didn't make those decisions and have done a much better job recently. It would be awesome if they did some more fairy tales from other cultures, because, not only would their princesses be more diverse but people can learn a little about other cultures. This may be totally insensitive of me but I think it would be very interesting.


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I would love to see more "cultural" fairy tale/legends/story movies too. I'd take anything from ancient civilization times. Especially from Africa or the Middle East. I feel like those cultures were so dependent on story telling that they'd have some really awesome tales. I also feel that those cultures are lost in the western world unless they are told through biblical stories. Not saying those don't make great films, Prince of Egypt was so so so beautiful and is one of my favorite animated films, but I want something different. I'm really tired of the typical princess fluff.

 

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[ErinS]

I would love to see more "cultural" fairy tale/legends/story movies too. I'd take anything from ancient civilization times. Especially from Africa or the Middle East. I feel like those cultures were so dependent on story telling that they'd have some really awesome tales. I also feel that those cultures are lost in the western world unless they are told through biblical stories. Not saying those don't make great films, Prince of Egypt was so so so beautiful and is one of my favorite animated films, but I want something different. I'm really tired of the typical princess fluff.

I've always thought that Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters by John Steptoe would make a good children's movie.

 

[ashscott41]

I'm a middle class white girl coming from a town with pretty much zero diversity. Not even going to chime in on the other stuff, but are flannels really things "thugs" wear? Is that just a California thing? Maybe it's because I'm more "country" than those kids, but button up those shirts and throw on some boots and jeans and they're ready for a day of work where I grew up.