I think everyone that is bickering on this thread has forgot about a littlee something called execution... which includes technique and synchronization... it's not all about numbers and "who has what", its about "who has what.. and how they DO it!" And also, tumbling is not the only thing that is on the score sheet. Whether TG has better tumbling than CALI or ICC has better tumbling than CEA or whatever the argument may be, the "lacking" team may score higher than the team with the "best tumbling" in any other category on the scoresheet. I think it's safe to say that all 4 of the teams that are being debated all have their definite strengths and weaknesses... strengths that are being maintained and fine-tuned, as well as weaknesses that are constantly being drilled. No one will ever know what changes are being made since the last videos came out, and no one will ever know how hard we're all working at practices to accomodate for those weaknesses and make the strengths even stronger, so it's hard to say. I'm excited for Indy, its gonna be a battle between ICC, TG, and CEA... and then again at Cheersport! (where is CALI during all of this?!) I'm not going to predict anything since I'm on ICC but good luck to all these teams at the upcoming competitions!