All-Star Twerk Ban

[xtremeteal4life]

I'll bring the cupcakes.

But seriously- There are degrees of appropriateness. It's one thing for me to twerk in a club or at home with my friends. I'm a 23 year old adult woman who is cognizant of the fact that it makes me look a bit inappropriate (and ridiculous- because twerking is ridiculous). I am an adult. I'm not immortalizing it online for the world to see. I'm not half-naked. Also I don't go to clubs because sweaty people are gross...so yeah. :D I've also noticed that shimmies in cheer are more of a shoulder-shake and less of a 'draw attention to the girls.' More of a staccato hit like 'BAM'.

For a gym to say- This is inappropriate. You have been warned, you've signed (knowingly and wittingly!) a social media policy which includes such behavior, you're done. I'm totes ok with that, especially as this gym is a Christian-oriented gym. I wish MORE gyms had stricter social media policies. I wish gyms had more appropriate dances. I'd like to take this moment to AGAIN remind everyone that CEA SE, who is not know for their 'fierce' dances, had among the more appropriate dances this year at worlds. And one of the highest dance scores in large senior. ;)

Also- I object to everyone in this thread who referred to twerking as a 'dance.' Spreading your legs in a semi-squat, sticking out your butt and pelvic thrusting repeatedly is NOT a dance. It is a gyration of your bits and bobs. :confused:

Actually I thought their dance this year was a little more gritty than usual (which is why I liked it more..those girls got down this year!! Definitely some grinding of the hip action going on). :)

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Now, not to say that I support Twerking (however my mother and I do wall twerk quite well I must add), but I think people are mistaking it for what it is. I wasn't started in strip clubs, it's a way of dancing which emphasizes certain features as you're gyrating them. Yes, that's completely inappropriate for young kids. BUT, it's exactly the same as having a dance about "ooh yeah booty booty roll it shake it work it for your momma, your daddy, and your bald headed granny".... It's exactly the same concept, just put a little more politely. If one is inappropriate, so it the other. There is a way of being "fierce" and "diva-like" without looking raunchy and ratchet.

And some of your other friends I might know... ;)

 

[cheermommaRN]

In tears over here Missy! No way I could ever see her doing that...LMAO
IIRC she's not particularly fond of it herself I think..

It would go something like this...***lil bits mind: "I'm twerking...I'm twerking...I want Chik Fil A...I'm tired...should i go running? I'm twerking I'm twerking...wait is mom working tonight? Maybe she will bring me OG? I'm twerking....Mom get me salad and breadsticks...what was I doing again?"

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Twerking is inappropriate, glad to see.a gym owner take a stand and hold athletes accountable for their behavior. We as parents are responsible for our kids behavior online & offline. When a childs behavior can impact others in a negative way there must be consequences. If there are "cheerlebrities" posting twerking videos online, thats when its time to use that opportunity as a teachable moment and explain to CP that behavior is not appropriate no matter who they are or what gym they represent. When there is parental pressure there can be no peer pressure.

Nowadays part of the interview process you are required to give your password to social media accounts.

Wait, who does this?!! I think that's an invasion of privacy. I mean, technically a old employer is only allowed to tell a new potential employer if the employee is rehire-able, how long they worked there and what they did for risk of potential lawsuits? I understand that they do background checks and look into your social media (provided it's public), but where can they make you give them your password legally?

 

[xtremeteal4life]

1) trying to say doing the splits or pulling body positions is the same as gyrating your rear end forcefully back and forth is even remotely the same doesn't even deserve a response. It's not, not even close.

2) please don't put words in my mouth and say I am insinuating that our gym is somehow more holy than others just because we decided to have a twerking ban. The Bible says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. What we all do with ourselves is between us and God. We personally believe any form of dancing that is sexual in nature is inappropriate and should not be condoned by our gym. We never said these kids couldn't twerk if they so choose to. We simply said keep it off social media and keep it out of the gym. Period. So they can experiment away at home or with their friends as long as they don't video it and post it online.


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Your post just reminded me of Footloose, lol.

 

[xtremeteal4life]

didnt we already determine this way early in the season, when F5 was gonna try and use it in their music.

Yes

 

[xtremeteal4life]

I do get tired of Christians getting a bad rap just because we disagree with what's popular in society.


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I'm honestly not trying to be offensive, but one of the main reasons for the perceived "bad rap" bc you disagree w/what's popular in society is bc it's still a contradiction w/what the Bible actually says and many people find that hypocritical. You (not just "you" specifically, but you in general) allow the makeup, the tight fitting clothes (even if only for one routine), any non-Christian music, etc. still goes against many of the main principles and/or tenets of Christianity. You simply cannot pick and choose what's ok for "you" according to the Bible, but not for these other Christians in accordance w/the same Bible.
I personally don't believe the Bible is open for a lot of interpretation. Despite mine and my husband's difference in beliefs than our families (his dad is a pastor and I grew up Southern Baptist and my mother grew up Pentecostal), I do see the example my father-in-law sets as one in accordance w/the Bible's word, tenets, etc. He won't listen to ANY music other than Christian music, he used to throw away his children's CD's when he found them, he wouldn't tolerate swearing, no cable in the house, not radio except Christian AM, etc, etc. Yet his heart is full of love and he is one of the most kindest, honorable, and respectable men I know and his heart is genuinely one of nothing but love. He is living by example they way the Bible says. It's not really "with the times" and religion evolves. Now it's ok for people to accept some parts and willingly disregard others. I think that's the problem that many people have bc they feel it's hypocritical.

I'm not judging you bc I don't believe that way and I don't know you from Harry...but I think if you honestly think about the things I've said, you will understand where I'm coming from in answering your rhetorical question. No one expects Christians to be perfect (at least not most people) simply bc you're Christians. It's the picking and choosing which parts you accept and which parts you disregard. I would have to imagine that Jesus wouldn't find cheerleading "acceptable" (on so many levels) or a beacon of showing his love and what he/Christianity is all about. Heck, my late granddaddy would have a heart attack bc of the makeup and uniforms alone! They weren't allowed to wear shorts. But anyway, I think it's perfectly within your rights to be as conservative as you see fit and for a gym to operate in any way they see fit and I admire anyone w/standing up for what they think is right and trying to show a good example, but I also admire the other gym/people anywhere else who choose to adhere to what they feel is acceptable for them. Finding the balance between the two is where I tend to see the most problems on the extremes of either side...If that makes sense. :)

 

[xtremeteal4life]

First off, I genuinely want to thank you for taking the time to find some actual evidence against my argument. It's a breath of a fresh air.

Part of the problem with relying on Internet definitions is that you don't know who they're being written by, or the motivations for why the author phrased things in a particular manner. I would argue that the internet definitions aren't particularly well thought out, and fail to take into consideration that there are plenty of different styles of twerking. Since twerking is still relatively new to the pop culture scene, people are eager to define it by its controversy; they probably don't feel the need to look at the movements objectively. If the Internet were around in the 50s, I'm sure you would find that the majority of people would define "The Twist" in the same way as people nowadays seem to be defining "The Twerk".

I honestly couldn't care less if Twist and Shout were to ban their athletes from wearing Mickey Mouse socks; how they control their athletes is their prerogative. What does concern me are the arguments that people are using to defend the ban--I felt (and continue to feel) it necessary to point out that it's a problem when arguments are rooted in pure emotion and illegitimate biases rather than objectivity and critical thinking.

Most people also don't go past wikipedia and/or the urban dictionary for research purposes either..so yeah, random articles from online magazines and blogs aren't necessarily the most reliable places for accurate info.

@Just-a-Mom- I totally got a kick out of the 2livecrew reference bc of they're whole "banned in the USA" song due to explicit lyrics and the "ban" on twerking, lol!

 

[xtremeteal4life]

It would go something like this...***lil bits mind: "I'm twerking...I'm twerking...I want Chik Fil A...I'm tired...should i go running? I'm twerking I'm twerking...wait is mom working tonight? Maybe she will bring me OG? I'm twerking....Mom get me salad and breadsticks...what was I doing again?"

Bahahahaha! Sounds like you know my friend well! ;)

 

[xtremeteal4life]

I just want to thank T&S for having twerking in their social media policy!

I have seen a "mini team twerk party" a couple of days ago on a social media site - let's just say that I do not know how a coach could get the idea to do that - let alone post it on social media :eek:.
It is one thing to let the mini team twerk - but record it and post it on social media - my kid would not continue to cheer at that gym!

Good lord- would you mind pm'ing me who did that?!

 

[xtremeteal4life]

I'm excited about going...relatively.... I'm only going because Michael Jackson is dead and Janet Jackson is married to some billionaire and doesn't put out new music and the last music she put out blew....So...I decided to go be a Beyonce fan by default. I tried being an Usher fan as well...his concert was okay. And I went to Jay Z and Kanye West... I tried to be their fan as well. Loved their concert...but people were smoking weed and I think I got like a contact high should those exist...anyway... I decided I wasn't about that life.

But yeah my Beyonce tickets aren't the best...but it was because I don't want to get trampled by the beyhive. I'm just going to go to dress up, be pretty and have some cocktails and say I went.

And about Miley. I watched her We Can't Stop video the other day. Bless her heart. She looked foolish.

But I love Usher :(
I think I'd twerk my 36 year old self on stage w/him (or if you've been to his latest tour, rather letting him "twerk" on me :oops:)

*with my husband's permission of course

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Since the only way to prove any point is to use big words and regurgitate academic theories in the hopes that your argument will sound intelligent and educated.

I'm still giggling that there is even a debate about this.



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I rather enjoyed some intelligent, adult discussions. I think that mccracal wasn't rude, disrespectful, etc., yet for a young intelligent person got treated rather rudely by a few adults on occasion in this thread.

 

[xtremeteal4life]

I just wanted to say that while I don't agree with everything that you've said...and it all could be because I really don't care about Twerk-Gate seriously, ....but I appreciate your intelligent and well thought out responses. The academic in me lives for arguments that can actually be substantiated with research from some sort of academic standpoint whether I agree or disagree....and in this instance truly care.





You've just reminded me that I don't have any idea where my college diploma or grad school diploma are at this very moment...so when I get to my moms house this weekend (while I'm passing thru to see Beyonce) I'm going to pitch a fit to my mom about her not properly framing them on a shrine to Erin(yonce) wall.

Thank you! Same here!

 

[xtremeteal4life]

@mccracal- perhaps I can interest you in another forum that perhaps you might (or might not) enjoy depending on certain things. PM me if you're interested in it bc I have a feeling you could handle yourself well there.

 

[Mamarazzi]

The funniest thing about this whole twerk deal, to me, is that I legit watched 4 teams from different gyms twerk their little hearts out this week. They didn't do it to entice the opposite gender, they did it as a form of bonding. It was just their way.
We used to have dance "battles," breakdancing, whatever, and that was our way. This is theirs. Yes, I video-ed it. Yes, I posted it on instagram. But I sincerely looked at it as a form of these athletes having fun and getting to know each other. The smiles and laughing were infectious.