All-Star Olympic Stunting

[King]

Think any EP would be willing to explore this idea? One thing that is nice is that any gym could teach this as a side thing.

I have one suggestion that might go over like a turd in a punchbowl: no routine music. The partner stunt could have background music and ambience, but that is another cost that would have to be introduced. Just competing based on time (with a 10 second warning at the end) would be, again, an easy and cheap way to do it.

 

[yojaehs]

Think any EP would be willing to explore this idea? One thing that is nice is that any gym could teach this as a side thing.

I have one suggestion that might go over like a turd in a punchbowl: no routine music. The partner stunt could have background music and ambience, but that is another cost that would have to be introduced. Just competing based on time (with a 10 second warning at the end) would be, again, an easy and cheap way to do it.

This is my favorite thing you've said so far! I for one am just about OVER music!

 

[StuntMonkey]

Many moons ago (ok, so it was years...) I noodled an idea of purely stunt comps with friends. We tossed around many similar ideas to what you are discussing.

Some of the things we came up with (some have been mentioned):

- Divisions for co-ed (single based), all girl (4 person) and co-ed pairs (2 guys, 2 girls).

- No spotter for the single based pair. Thus you do ONLY skills you can hit safely. (This one we never all came to agreement on...)

- Co-ed pairs requirements to include some basket tosses and synchronized stunts. You also have the built in spotters for really hard elements. Time limit 1 minute 20 seconds.

- Two rounds of competition. One compulsory round with all teams doing the same 45 second routine, second round open routine 60 seconds long. Only the top half of the field (or a minimum of 5 teams) to move forwards to second round.

- Code of points for skills (will have to be constantly updated and tweaked) and levels 1-10 for difficulty (this was before USASF levels existed). For the open routine you must submit list of skills and order of execution for calculation of routine start value. Routine scores are calculated as: (start value * execution) - deductions

- The compulsory routines would be designed by a rules committee at the start of the season and a video provided. It would include elements tossed straight to the top, twisting mounts and dismounts and a free flight flipping mount and dismount.

- Deductions are huge for dropping skills, so that they will easily take you out of medal contention. So the focus becomes on not only being really hard but nailing it as well.

- Also thought of ending the competition with a max-hold round of all competitors, but again that was an idea that received mixed reviews.

Oh, and the thought was to make this as part of the X-Games, we weren't even thinking of the Olympics at the time.

 

[addicted2cheer]

I was saying this exact thing this weekend. Just stunting would be easy to have a lot of countries participate and by only having stunt groups it would make it more realistic to keep a group together and training for extended periods of time.

I swear... table tennis????? really? and even badminton! but cheer/stunting can't be a sport?

 

[King]

I was saying this exact thing this weekend. Just stunting would be easy to have a lot of countries participate and by only having stunt groups it would make it more realistic to keep a group together and training for extended periods of time.

I swear... table tennis????? really? and even badminton! but cheer/stunting can't be a sport?

It can be. The reason it isn't is that no one has ever tried. They have only tried to make cheer as a whole a sport.

 

[Deleted member 15]

I have one suggestion that might go over like a turd in a punchbowl: no routine music. The partner stunt could have background music and ambience, but that is another cost that would have to be introduced. Just competing based on time (with a 10 second warning at the end) would be, again, an easy and cheap way to do it.

Keep the music involved, but have the same music for everyone and provide it to them when they register. This way the participants and judges can tell if they are doing the stunts on time.

 

[addicted2cheer]

And it would be great if they had to do it similar to figure skating with a prelim round of required skills and then a "freestyle" stunt.

 

[King]

Keep the music involved, but have the same music for everyone and provide it to them when they register. This way the participants and judges can tell if they are doing the stunts on time.

Fot the compulsory round, definitely.

To me a compulsory sequence would be like (for coed):

Toss left cupie, single take toss right cupie, hands, left lib tick tock right stretch, double. set out, walk in, mess em up, platform scorpion double. take off for steps, timing, and bad flexibility.

 

[King]

And it would be great if they had to do it similar to figure skating with a prelim round of required skills and then a "freestyle" stunt.

It could be done that way and just make it two rounds. I was trying to extend it a bit. Maybe make the compulsory round harder, then open it up.

 

[Deleted member 15]

Fot the compulsory round, definitely.

To me a compulsory sequence would be like (for coed):

Toss left cupie, single take toss right cupie, hands, left lib tick tock right stretch, double. set out, walk in, mess em up, platform scorpion double. take off for steps, timing, and bad flexibility.

You could provide the music for the additional rounds, just not the routine that goes with it. If the goal is only to keep the cost down you'd only have to get a couple mixes that you could probably get a music producer to sponsor in exchange for being listed as an official sponsor.

 

[yojaehs]

You could provide the music for the additional rounds, just not the routine that goes with it. If the goal is only to keep the cost down you'd only have to get a couple mixes that you could probably get a music producer to sponsor in exchange for being listed as an official sponsor.

I could see doing a "mash mix" that has the same beat but to hear the same music over and over would suck. Imagine this year...Call me maybe. How many hundreds of thousands of times will we hear this? As a judge I wish there was a deduction for "over used" songs and "too many voiceovers" but I know I'm on my own.
I do agree music should be used so that you could tell if the stunt was "on". Maybe like gymnastics NO WORDS/SOUND XF

 

[cheer4evah]

You're kind... so let us come up withe sport itself.

So far we have 4 rounds.

1. Compulsory Round - everyone does the exact same routine and its based off execution / flexibility. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Execution score is out of 10 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

2. Twisting Round - everyone submits their routine and they have a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Then you have deductions for the entire routine. You can do one half flip [ no continuous flips ] (so front handspring ups but not back handspring ups as those are a continuos flip). Execution score is out of 11 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

3. Flipping Round - everyone submits their routine and they have a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Then you have deductions for the entire routine. You can do one half flip [ no continuous flips ] (so front handspring ups but not back handspring ups as those are a continuos flip). Execution score is out of 11 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

4. Routine Round - Perform a routine of choosing. Submit for a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Execution score is out of 12 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics. Should be the highest scoring round.

I really like this idea a lot - but, if I'm reading this correct #2 and #3 are exactly the same???

It would be really neat if something could actually come of this, and I'd definitely tune in to watch!

 

[King]

I really like this idea a lot - but, if I'm reading this correct #2 and #3 are exactly the same???

It would be really neat if something could actually come of this, and I'd definitely tune in to watch!

Whoops! Type. Supposed to switch the words flip and twist when i wrote teh second one, and forgot. Thanks for catching it.

 

[Future]

You're kind... so let us come up withe sport itself.

So far we have 4 rounds.

1. Compulsory Round - everyone does the exact same routine and its based off execution / flexibility. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Execution score is out of 10 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

2. Twisting Round - everyone submits their routine and they have a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Then you have deductions for the entire routine. You can do one half flip [ no continuous flips ] (so front handspring ups but not back handspring ups as those are a continuos flip). Execution score is out of 11 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

3. Flipping Round - everyone submits their routine and they have a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Then you have deductions for the entire routine. You can do one half flip [ no continuous flips ] (so front handspring ups but not back handspring ups as those are a continuos flip). Execution score is out of 11 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics.

4. Routine Round - Perform a routine of choosing. Submit for a start value. Each time they vary from the routine you lose 1 point. Execution score is out of 12 and you subtract like they do in gymnastics. Should be the highest scoring round.

This is the same format as Acro and Tumbling uses. Also have a detailed Cod of Points and execution deductions….why not use this format instead of reinventing?

 

[King]

This is the same format as Acro and Tumbling uses. Also have a detailed Cod of Points and execution deductions….why not use this format instead of reinventing?

Not against using it but I'd want to see it. Some things that hurt acros acceptance into mainstream:

The emphasis on holds - they're boring to the general population

The flexibility requirement of the bases - limits the people who could do it.

The unitards for bases - ew