All-Star Spirit Of Texas And Top Gun Illegal Passes?

[yojaehs]

shawnmiller I think you got screwed and I think it is garbage that this "clarification" has no clarity.

 

[shawnmiller]

Right, i am all about the rules and i like to follow them. there just needs to be one central location to where they are placed. Not on personal twitters or meetings that not everyone attends. all I am asking is where was the clarification written. If we are going to say that a harder pass of bhs whip double bhs double is legal. I think it needs to be written in one central location that an easier pass is not. And when I go to ask a legality judge that don't tell me it was posted on someone twitter that I don't follow. Or make it a rule that I have to follow his twitter!

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Am I the only one who finds it sortof ridiculous were having a very specific and technical conversation about backward rolls in TGLC? That's the first sign there's something really wrong about these new tumbling rules. Good thing he didn't hit that handstand....That level of skill is just too much for a world champion program like that! Dial it down, don't want to hurt yourself there.

I'll just be vindicated in that I really COULD make TGLC! I got a fierce backward roll!

#endsarcasm

I would like to go on record and say that we were totally against the tumbling rules to begin with #yesI'mbeingfacetious

 

[xtremeteal4life]

But the way your stating this hand whip double whip double should still be illegal but as said it is not. Whether it's twisting once or twice the second double is not DIRECTLY preceded by TWO consecutive non-twisting skills. The second double is only directly preceded by ONE. Again, the wording is stupid, the rule is stupid. This has NO direct decrease in injuries. If hand whip double whip double is legal, there is NO WAY any wording should make hand whip full whip double illegal, NONE.
Because the 2nd double is EITHER preceded by full whip or double whip, BOTH are twisting, PERIOD. Have I mentioned this rule is STUPID?

Yes, but I'm quoting you so that people see it again. :D:p

 

[xtremeteal4life]

ACTUALLY YOUR WRONG! IM USASF CERTIFIED AND HAVE A GIRL ON MY SENIOR 5 Team who does whip full whip double and we've competed three times already and have not gotten deducted for it, read into your rules closely

oh dear lord..even I know that just bc something hasn't been called when it's been competed (even on numerous occasions) doesn't mean it's still legal. If we safety judges and really good coaches who can't effin clarify what's what with the rules, I'm not holding out yet that your CP's team tumbling pass is legal...
For all I know it may be and for all you know it may not

 

[WuToDouble]

How bout this all of it is legal cuz I say so as well as standing dubs r now unban

 

[xtremeteal4life]

shawnmiller I think you got screwed and I think it is garbage that this "clarification" has no clarity.

Sorta makes you wonder how and who else might get screwed this season bc of "clarifications", etc.

 

[cheerinfo]

That person must be talking about running since they quoted a part of the running rules.

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I assume so as well since after being so RUDE and me explaining it and asking what they were referring to (ST or RT) they haven't been back. But the thread was on standing tumbling, so for me to assume it was about STANDING TUMBLING did not seem unreasonable haha!! In any event...I think we have clarified the issue, no? LOL

 

[JessicaL]

whip full whip double is LEGAL...you cant twist punch twist so the whips separate the skills.

Legal for running tumbling.

 

[JessicaL]

ACTUALLY YOUR WRONG! IM USASF CERTIFIED AND HAVE A GIRL ON MY SENIOR 5 Team who does whip full whip double and we've competed three times already and have not gotten deducted for it, read into your rules closely

Not being called could simply mean it wasn't caught, not that it signifies legality.

 

[cheerinfo]

Not being called could simply mean it wasn't caught, not that it signifies legality.

Yes, I posted this earlier on the matter. Perhaps before they posted, they should have 1) not been so rude, and 2) read that this thread was discussing STANDING tumbling, so if they were referring to RUNNING tumbling, they should have clarified. Ugh, RUDE.

 

[coachrah]

The fact that this is even an argument and nobody knows only further proves my point.

The rule is stupid and confusing. And it better be fixed for next year-and by fixed, I mean removed and a PROPER solution put in place that actively discourages people from trying things they're not ready for (in a way that REALLY prevents injuries), instead of punishing people who can do things that others can't. One that consults doctors, tumbling specialists, and people who can clearly and concisely write rules in a way that doesn't need 20 people to explain them. Again, the road to the devil is paved with good intentions..

Here is some an expert opinion (Interesting take on "taller athletes"):

http://usagym.org/pages/home/publications/technique/2002/7/cheergymnastics.pdf

 

[Mclovin]

Ok so another question cheerinfo welcomeback ... what is a cartwheel considered? Running or standing? If running does that mean a cartwheel double is legal?

 

[kristenthegreat]

Here is some an expert opinion (Interesting take on "taller athletes"):

http://usagym.org/pages/home/publications/technique/2002/7/cheergymnastics.pdf

...That's from 2002. Holy heck how things have changed!

 

[JessicaL]

Yes, I posted this earlier on the matter. Perhaps before they posted, they should have 1) not been so rude, and 2) read that this thread was discussing STANDING tumbling, so if they were referring to RUNNING tumbling, they should have clarified. Ugh, RUDE.

Wishing I could provide you with multiple shimmies!