All-Star You Might Be A Crazy Cheer Mom If...... (confession Time)

[cheerisloving]

Curious, is your school being desegregated or is it a magnet school?

It is a normal public school, just on the side of town that has been historically minority based, but there is still a population of white students. Traditionally, people wouldn't send their kids to our school bc of it had so many minorities so they would get them into the other 2 schools in the county. Over the past 8 years, the school has gotten a bigger white population as our sports teams, and building has improved greatly. My mother works at my school, and many of the staff have been there for years and the change is noticeable.

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

It is a normal public school, just on the side of town that has been historically minority based, but there is still a population of white students. Traditionally, people wouldn't send their kids to our school bc of it had so many minorities so they would get them into the other 2 schools in the county. Over the past 8 years, the school has gotten a bigger white population as our sports teams, and building has improved greatly. My mother works at my school, and many of the staff have been there for years and the change is noticeable.

That answers most of the questions I had! Makes more sense now.

 

[Cinn124]

I definitely agree with @Eyes On The Prize, it is dreadful when teachers are expected and are given poor evaluations, in some cases, if we do not personally finance the extra resources our students need to learn the curriculum... I spend a lot of my own money buying copy papers, pencils, etc...so I can print textbooks for my students and ink for my printer (at $75 per cartridge)...Being a teacher in an urban area takes a lot of sacrifice of time and personal money...

This! At CPs school (freshman in HS) the parents are all asked to bring in supplies for the school year. These supplies include copy paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, hand soap, and a host of other things. The NYC public school system is so under funded it's sad. We have 1.1 million students in the public school system. MacBooks and iPads are not on anyone's radar here.

 

[Pebbles49]

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This! At CPs school (freshman in HS) the parents are all asked to bring in supplies for the school year. These supplies include copy paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, hand soap, and a host of other things. The NYC public school system is so under funded it's sad. We have 1.1 million students in the public school system. MacBooks and iPads are not on anyone's radar here.

Wow! I wish we can tell our students to bring their own supplies, but apparently our school district place all this on the teachers' shoulders.
This year, the school district handed out donated bookbags and supplies to the students who asked for them, but after Sept., the students will stop bringing them and the teachers must again supply papers, pencils, notebooks, etc, if we want the students to do class work...
In this school district, I feel like the students are so entitled and expect everything to be given to them. I actually have students, who have the audacity to ask for a pencil to use and instead of returning it, the student will break the pencil and then borrow another pencil in their next class! So, I actually have a special box of broken pencils I pass out to break (no pun intended) these students of this nasty habit...
Tbh, I really feel sorry for the new teachers (2 years or less), these are the teachers who are hit the worse and are not making any money teaching and often leave the profession, quickly!...

 

[cheermuse]

50 years ago where Im from. Schools are K-8 and 9-12 (HS). There is no middle school. It was strange for me to adapt to middle school concept when I moved to the south. for me 8th grade, there was a graduation ceremony. my younger sibling graduated from the same Elementary school. His class had a formal 8th grade prom. There were no limo's parents dropped kids off at school gym.

Fast fwd to my CP had a informal 8th grade dance (middle school) paid for by fundraiser done by PTA. CP had a room parent K-3rd grade. she organized classroom end of the year party, treats for holiday celebrations, teachers gifts and class room supplies.

CP is in 10th grade. She has 1 textbook all other classes textbook is onnline. Students are given a login/pw. Most of her homework is put on a thumbdrive and/or uploaded to weebly or teachers website. Standardized testing is on computer.

 

[Pebbles49]

@cheermuse, my last school district went back to the k-8 school model and it seems to be working... What this school district realized the middle school model (6-8) did not work because these students needed the younger grades (k-3) to make them feel like role models. I must admit, I noticed the behaviors of the middle school students improved by being around younger students. I also think, it cuts down on adjustments issues in the middle schoolers too. Jmo, When students go to 1 school for 9 years, it is a sense that they belong and it helps to establish family or community connections... I also noticed, teacher turnover stopped too.

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

Additionally, I am reading about

Wow! I wish we can tell our students to bring their own supplies, but apparently our school district place all this on the teachers' shoulders.
This year, the school district handed out donated bookbags and supplies to the students who asked for them, but after Sept., the students will stop bringing them and the teachers must again supply papers, pencils, notebooks, etc, if we want the students to do class work...
In this school district, I feel like the students are so entitled and expect everything to be given to them. I actually have students, who have the audacity to ask for a pencil to use and instead of returning it, the student will break the pencil and then borrow another pencil in their next class! So, I actually have a special box of broken pencils I pass out to break (no pun intended) these students of this nasty habit...
Tbh, I really feel sorry for the new teachers (2 years or less), these are the teachers who are hit the worse and are not making any money teaching and often leave the profession, quickly!...

Why in the world is it the teachers responsibility to make sure the kids are prepared and have school supplies??? Isn't that the responsibility of the parent? (I THINK YES!?!) I get maybe having a class room set of rulers, dictionaries, scissors, maybe markers that the teachers buy, but paper and pencils? It also shouldn't be coming out of the teachers own pockets. If the teachers are to buy these supplies then the school should set aside a fund for all teachers to cover these costs or they should get reimbursed.

This seems so backwards. It does not hold the students or their parents accountable for their own/child's success whatsoever. Is this a special education school or something?

The education system really irks me. I'm really scratching my head at what your teachers are supposed to do. I really don't get that.

 

[notyourcheermom]

Additionally, I am reading about

Wow! I wish we can tell our students to bring their own supplies, but apparently our school district place all this on the teachers' shoulders.
This year, the school district handed out donated bookbags and supplies to the students who asked for them, but after Sept., the students will stop bringing them and the teachers must again supply papers, pencils, notebooks, etc, if we want the students to do class work...
In this school district, I feel like the students are so entitled and expect everything to be given to them. I actually have students, who have the audacity to ask for a pencil to use and instead of returning it, the student will break the pencil and then borrow another pencil in their next class! So, I actually have a special box of broken pencils I pass out to break (no pun intended) these students of this nasty habit...
Tbh, I really feel sorry for the new teachers (2 years or less), these are the teachers who are hit the worse and are not making any money teaching and often leave the profession, quickly!...

CP is in 8th and the science teacher makes them give her one of their shoes they have on their feet if they borrow a pencil from her. CP said she used to make them leave their lanyard ID's with her last year if they borrowed a pencil but people would forget to go get their ID and give pencil back. CP says everyone remembers to go get their shoe back before leaving the class.

 

[fiercerando88]

Why in the world is it the teachers responsibility to make sure the kids are prepared and have school supplies??? Isn't that the responsibility of the parent? (I THINK YES!?!) I get maybe having a class room set of rulers, dictionaries, scissors, maybe markers that the teachers buy, but paper and pencils? It also shouldn't be coming out of the teachers own pockets. If the teachers are to buy these supplies then the school should set aside a fund for all teachers to cover these costs or they should get reimbursed.

This seems so backwards. It does not hold the students or their parents accountable for their own/child's success whatsoever. Is this a special education school or something?

The education system really irks me. I'm really scratching my head at what your teachers are supposed to do. I really don't get that.

This isn't really that uncommon I think. I work in a school district that is not "poor", but certainly isn't rich either. Small suburban New Hampshire. We often have kids not prepared for school, no pens, notebooks, etc. We can tell parents they need supplies till the cows come home, doesn't change anything. If we want our kids to be able to be productive students, we make sure they're equipped with essentials. Staples/Walmart often have notebooks you can buy in bulk for 10 cents. We stock up and make sure the kids who need them are equipped. It's not fair to punish the kids for their parents not providing for them. And some of these parents are very capable of affording essentials, ya know since they and their kids all have the latest eye phones, have jobs, etc. It's sometimes just a matter of school/education not being deemed important enough to spend the money on supplies. Which is incredibly sad.


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[Eyes On The Prize]

This isn't really that uncommon I think. I work in a school district that is not "poor", but certainly isn't rich either. Small suburban New Hampshire. We often have kids not prepared for school, no pens, notebooks, etc. We can tell parents they need supplies till the cows come home, doesn't change anything. If we want our kids to be able to be productive students, we make sure they're equipped with essentials. Staples/Walmart often have notebooks you can buy in bulk for 10 cents. We stock up and make sure the kids who need them are equipped. It's not fair to punish the kids for their parents not providing for them. And some of these parents are very capable of affording essentials, ya know since they and their kids all have the latest eye phones, have jobs, etc. It's sometimes just a matter of school/education not being deemed important enough to spend the money on supplies. Which is incredibly sad.


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I think I misunderstood. I thought she was saying her district mandates the teachers to buy all the supplies for their students. Like instead of sending supply lists home to the parents (whether they choose to buy the supplies or not).

I understand the "teachers buy stuff because the parents won't" thing. I wish there were more funds for teachers to buy supplies for kids who have those types of parents. Like more grants or stipends and stuff.

 

[Helen uk uni cheer]

I work as an agency teaching assistant which means I got to different schools in my area when needed. All the school in uk from what I believe from primary to secondary provide exercise books for children to write in. The should bring at minimum a pen and pencil but most teachers have supplies from what I believe comes from their departments budget. We don't tend to have text books given to kids for the year but there is one set in a classroom when it is needed. Laptop wise if a child has additional needs but is in mainstream they may have an i pad but otherwise they do not.

 

[Belinda]

In Sweden, in the schools I went to age 5-16 (totally different system), I always got pens, pencils, notebooks, erasers and whatever else we needed. Then textbooks we borrowed for however long our class was (year or term). Age 16-18 I got a laptop and then textbooks, but that was a private school. Now I think kids age like 12 and up get laptops at all schools lol, if not you get to borrow it for the years you're in that school and then return or pay like 10% to get it out. Though it's all funded by the state unless it's private. So it's all government budgeted.

 

[GreatWhite92]

As an elementary teacher in a title 1 school, we are often seen as babysitters to the parents. They could care less what their child learns. They could care less that our job depends on their child's test scores. I feel so terrible for these students but at the same time I just don't understand why my job is tied to these students when they come to school saying "my momma doesn't care if I make bad grades so why should I try?" *seriosuly had a kid a few weeks ago tell me that* You can teach that kid up and down, you can give them as much love as possible, but that isn't gonna make them try when it comes to a test my job depends on and now I'm labeled as "ineffective." Our education system is really messed up. They kids are so sick of the tests, there is no fun in education anymore which makes it all the more reason for the kids not to try as stated above. Give them something fun and engaging and I guarantee they will learn whether they realize it or not. But instead we are sitting them in front of a computer 30% of the time testing. If I would have known that when I went to college, I most likely wouldn't have become a teacher.


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[SL&AM]

Our middle school "informalized" the 8th grade dance a few years ago. Girls cannot wear strapless dresses, pencil skirts or heels. Boys wear khakis and a golf type collar shirt. Kids cannot arrive/depart in vehicles other than cars. Pre- and post-dance parties exist but are highly discouraged, especially the pre-parties. While the girls were never wearing prom-like dresses to this as I have definitely seen in other nearby school districts (more similar to what my oldest wore to her junior banquet in 11th grade), some of their outfits bordered on inappropriate for what the school wanted (and for their age imho) so they decided to make a dress code. I am not a fan of dress codes but this was actually welcomed and made it much easier on the parents.

I actually like this idea, though I'm not sure it would go over well in our county---a few of the schools are in golf communities, so their parents don't bring them to school in their cars, instead they use golf carts. As long as those weren't forbidden, it would probably work out.

 

[measy88]

My mom is a teacher in Philly, and I think teachers here regularly spend more than $1000 out of pocket on supplies every year. They give her a ream of paper for the year and she has to restock herself. They don't send lists home with parents because they know that most parents won't pay attention.

Our state chronically underfunds the Philly SD, and PA currently has no budget, so it's looking to get a lot worse. They're saying schools might shut down by the end of January due to the lack of funds.


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